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26 Jan 2009 10:03 PM

here is a link to bunch of pics of various geo jobs in case you are really bored
Dewayne Dean

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27 Jan 2009 11:12 AM
Since this link is named "photos" I thought I'd give a link to my geothermal installation photos as well:
http://www.geochoices.com/geothermal_installation.html

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27 Jan 2009 11:23 AM
Thank you Ona for sharing those photos and your website looks great and informative. This will help out other people who's looking into geothermal. I will post our photos as soon as I get the chance too.
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27 Jan 2009 12:27 PM
You are very welcome. This website is fantastic because of the amount of knowledge these professionals share. I am more than happy to share my experiences as a homeowner.
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27 Jan 2009 03:58 PM
Posted By geodean on 01/26/2009 10:03 PM

here is a pics in case you are really bored

Some Questions to bother in case your bored:

Your heavy equipment operator looks a little short... and young.

I assume the 6 ball shaped rolls and other pipe is for a major project like a school. Looks liek an lot of pipe for one house.

What's the big metal thingy and why you put it in the water? I thought pond loops where loops of pipe under the water, how much pipe is that thing equilivatant to? How deep is that lake? I hate to dive into that thing.

What's the purpose of the black tank with a manhole cover on it? Does it serve the same purpose as the cinderblock junction box shown later in the photos?

One of the photos has an awful lot of elbow and connectors on the pipe in the trench. I had assumed that the close loops where a unbroken lines of pipe that went from the house to the field and back with any fitting inside the house, not underground. There no concern about something leaking in the future?

Which guy is You?

You need to update the FAQ on your website, The Federal Tax Credit for Geothermal Heat Pump is now $2000, not $300.



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27 Jan 2009 05:48 PM
I was not bored but took the time to go look.
Outstanding is all I have to say. Dewayne that is some serious DIY equiptment to get the job done, I like it!! Those slinky balls made me think of the bio balls I installed in my fish pond filter, on steroids. Really good stuff to push geo forward.
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27 Jan 2009 06:39 PM
Posted By TechGromit on 01/27/2009 3:58 PM
Posted By geodean on 01/26/2009 10:03 PM

here is a pics in case you are really bored

Some Questions to bother in case your bored:

Your heavy equipment operator looks a little short... and young.

1) I assume the 6 ball shaped rolls and other pipe is for a major project like a school. Looks liek an lot of pipe for one house.

2) What's the big metal thingy and why you put it in the water? I thought pond loops where loops of pipe under the water, how much pipe is that thing equilivatant to? How deep is that lake? I hate to dive into that thing.

3) What's the purpose of the black tank with a manhole cover on it? Does it serve the same purpose as the cinderblock junction box shown later in the photos?

4) One of the photos has an awful lot of elbow and connectors on the pipe in the trench. I had assumed that the close loops where a unbroken lines of pipe that went from the house to the field and back with any fitting inside the house, not underground. There no concern about something leaking in the future?


5) You need to update the FAQ on your website, The Federal Tax Credit for Geothermal Heat Pump is now $2000, not $300.

6) Which guy is You?



1) We did a horizontal loop on a school that called for 21 miles of 1.25" slinky pipe.

2) Some pond loops use Slim Jims for heat exchangers

3) On some commercial jobs,  there is an undergound vault where the subfields are manifolded together and then 8" lines carry the loop fluid to and from the building.  Some vaults are made out of black plastic others are concrete.

4) Most of the connections are done outside the building.  The joints are fused and are as strong or stronger than the original pipe.

5)  thanks for the catch on the tax credit.  We had it right one place, wrong the other.

6) http://deanadventures.com/pictures/geothermal/32-DSCN1833.jpg

http://deanadventures.com/pictures/geothermal/50-DSCN5606.jpg

http://deanadventures.com/pictures/geothermal/53-DSCN7391.jpg



Dewayne Dean

<br>www.PalaceGeothermal.com<br>Why settle for 90% when you can have 400%<br>We heat and cool with dirt!<br>visit- http://welserver.com/WEL0114/- to see my system
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28 Jan 2009 12:43 AM
Y'all have too much fun - wish I could climb aboard a company doing work like that near me - I'd be all over it, even if it meant getting butt deep in mud every now and again.

I see good construction techniques in those pics - beware you don't give away the farm...
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28 Jan 2009 12:38 PM
Outstanding and very impressive photos, you certainly are experienced with geothermal heating/cooling.
My geothermal loops and geothermal heat pump install ..http://picasaweb.google.com/silvermachineman/GeothermalInstall?authkey=JMC2Nf6tl88#
1500 sq ft home with 5 ton Geocomfort heat pump<br>desuperheater,3200ft of horz loop. Howard city,MI.
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28 Jan 2009 01:48 PM

Nice pictures wirechief, the waterheater looks like a bomb with it's rounded top, you sure it's a water heater? :) From what I could tell from the photos, it looks like you placed the close loop into the trenches straight in instead of laying it in loops. So I assume either way is acceptable, but straight runs would require longer trenches right?

 

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28 Jan 2009 02:49 PM
I was concerned with the lay of the loops, they laid them out in 100ft long trench (.075in dia pipe) then filled about 1 ft of dirt, laid another loop and repeated the process in a total of 4 trenches, some layers appeared to have more than one loop but the total was 3200 ft (4 x 800) then they were brought together back to the house in 1.25in pipe. So far we have experience a low of -8.5 and the system provided heat while running 100% with 47,445 btu/hr
the house load at -8 deg F is 58,134 btu/hr, thank goodness we only had one day of that but in that period we had 5 days running like that and was able
to see 70deg F in the house. I was told the tstat was optioned so that we would run at half load when running at 100% run time. The water heater sure looks like a bomb but it does give me hot water very nicely.
1500 sq ft home with 5 ton Geocomfort heat pump<br>desuperheater,3200ft of horz loop. Howard city,MI.
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