Has anyone heard of these guys? totalgreenus.com
They use copper piping for ground loops, which actually makes sense to me as it relates to transfer of heat to/from the loops.
But, they don't give any details of the heat pumps system... They happen to be local to me.  I may have to talke to them to get more details.
Thanks,
JD

DX is a well respected ( by most ) and very effecient type of geothermal system

dont know the company or what equipment they install  Look into earthlinked ecr

there the big DX manufacturer

Hi Clark,

We purchase Advanced Geo compressor assemblies and make modifications to the control block.  My technicians are amazing refrigeration engineers. 

We private label the entire installation a "Total Green Geothermal Heating and Cooling System" by project managing the heat load calculation/system sizing, insulation (we always remediate somewhere - especially air sealing) drilling (we design the drilling patterns), HVAC components and final evacuation, start-up, test and tweak.  Every system is carefully monitored to meet (our) efficiency standards.

Total Green takes it's obligation(s) seriously.  We walk from jobs where we know the installation will fail.  We give good advice, free of charge, and let the customer discover for themselves that geothermal is the best solution. 

Regards,

Paul Auerbach
Total Green Geothermal
      

Paul the advanced geo your talking about is out of Reading Pa?

If so I have nothing bad to say about the product , which from what I understand is VERY similiar to ECR in fl.

Your company and the one I work for likely bid on a few of the same jobs

Hi Geofan,

Yep, we use the Advanced Geo equipment.  And like all geo compressor assemblies requires pros to make it work.  Bidding on the same jobs?  If you're in the Hudson Valley, very likely.  I'm sure you've noted a dramatic increase in quotes and actual jobs.  Geo is really becoming mainstream.  If you're in  our trading area why not give me a call and see if there are ways we can work together.  I'm afraid with the new tax benefits there are going to be lots of "upstarts" coming into the business without proper expertise who will give us all a bad name by putting in systems that fail because of poor engineering.

Go Geo

PA

Paul sorry didnt post back

As far as a team up ( not my call just a service tech ) I assumed that you where referring to potential joint projects or sub contracting not some diabolical price fixing scheme . so no worries there . At looking at your web site you work with local hvac companies on most jobs . we are western CT/eastern NY basically 684 to 84 . Where our interest is , is  service/maintenance as much if not more then the install if this is not where your focus lies then I dont see why we couldn't work together

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For 'postage stamp' size urban residential lot sizes, what's the minimum surface area needed, per tone, for GX technology GSHPs?

For example, for a residential lot where there's clearly not enough land for a horizontal loop field, nor enough for a vertical bore hole field, with GX's less land area requirement, how small can a lot go (how many sf of yard area) and still accommodate a 5 ton capacity GX unit?

Many thanks!

Best regards,

Bill

for an angle bore a 10 foot circle is really the land that gets drilled

clearly you have to be able to fit the equipment in the yard , and you dont really want to drill under your neighbors home

I would say just about any 1/4 acre lot would not have a problem .

What the heck were they thinking?  The price fixing/collusion thing came out of the blue.  You are correct that I was referring to working together in some way - be it advertising, setting up educational forums about geo - whatever.   Nuf said on that...

We're always on the lookout for professionals who understand geo.   Yes, our focus is installation and we strive to make each install completely trouble free - but that's not always the case (although we can honestly say once our systems are up and running they are unlikely to require service). 

If service is your thrust, we should talk because we have installations in your trading area that at some point may require service and we like to have trusted HVAC techs to dispatch. 

Paul Auerbach
Managing Partner
Total Green LLC
845-774-8484    

Much appreciate the responses on earth surface area needed to install DX (not GX, sorry).  I'm impressed - i.e., 12' circle for a 5 ton system.  That gets into so many properties that water loop (horizontal or vertical) can't.

I would thus think that the market opportunities for urban sized properties would be huge for DX, here in TX for sure, where it's mostly clay being drilled through (versus rocks), and probably elsewhere.

Many thanks!

Best regards,

Bill

Bill,

DX geo can be drilled in even smaller footprints.  Take a look at the animation here and you'll see what I mean.  http://www.totalgreenintl.com/geoanima1.asp

We've put fields in under parking lots, driveways and tight spaces.  We just need to be able to get the drill rig in place.

Good luck in Texas - BTW did you know the former Prez has a geo installation at the Ranch in Crawford.

Paul

Posted By Paul Auerbach on 29 Apr 2010 02:44 PM
We use Earthlinked and Advanced Geo and have had much success with either system. But as everyone on this forum knows, the equipment is less important than the folks who design, engineer and install 'em.

Paul Auerbach
Total Green Geothermal
www.TotalGreenUS.com

Posted By Paul Auerbach on 15 May 2010 12:10 AM 


The 5.0 COP achieved is real world - NOT ARI.

Posted By adkjacUpstateNY on 18 May 2010 07:40 AM

This is not trade secret stuff boys... What's with the lack of chat?

you're answer to me means no GEO expert here knows what effect drilling into granite has on the COP of a DX unit... the effect on the drilling cost... and overall install cost of say a 3 ton unit?

Posted By adkjacUpstateNY on 18 May 2010 07:40 AM
What is the drill rig for drilling DX holes in a circle, what is the hole diameter, average depth and cost to drill a group of ____ holes and how much time would that take with how many man hours???? Then how much work is involved in installing copper and completing that part of the install?

Total Green.... I am curious... could you answer this?

This is not trade secret stuff boys... What's with the lack of chat?

Ask me any question to do with building homes... I am happy to share my knowledge.

I shoot for $60/hr in time estimating manhours... materials for remodeling end up being 1/3 of costs... with lots of demo a 1/4.... with kitchens and baths 1/2, tennis courts 1/3 rebuild, new 1/2. Takes me a week to build a new tennis court with fencing and 120 man hours.

Anyone willing to share some GEO numbers from their history?

aj

email if not willing to do so on here.

Posted By adkjacUpstateNY on 20 May 2010 06:41 PM

So... system price that I would think is good.
$10,000 installed. That's it... Not a dollar more.
And that's for homes from 2,000 to 3,000 feet

Posted By adkjacUpstateNY on 22 May 2010 04:53 AM
...not what floats boats around here.

Posted By adkjacUpstateNY on 17 May 2010 10:31 PM
All the pros in here and not one can tell me about COP, cost and all to go GEO in Granite??????????????????

Posted By adkjacUpstateNY on 22 May 2010 05:21 PM
... if this field has a huge mark up... I am in line to having the least installl costs...


aj

Posted By Paul Auerbach on 02 Mar 2009 05:44 PM
... 

We are Total Green, a geothermal designer and installer - specializing in DX technology. In the last 12 months we've successfully installed 44 Total Green Geothermal Heating and Cooling systems in NY and Connecticut in both commercial and residential properties. I invite anyone to visit our website www.TotalGreenUS.com and see what we do and how we do it.

We pride ourselves in being very knowledgeable about energy management - how the structure utilizes energy. We size our systems properly, work only with approved HVAC sub-contractors and have a large body of clients that are enjoying their Total Green geothermal systems and reaping the savings that geothermal promises.

With the new tax credits we expect a host of "geothermal cowboys" to come along trying to take advantage of the demand - To that I can only say "Caveat Emptor." Let the buyer beware. If you're considering geothermal, be certain to do your due diligence and check references. A good installer will have at least least 10 or 15 systems they can point to and a few clients they'll allow you to speak with...

Go Geo.

Paul Auerbach
Principal & system designer
Total Green LLC
[email protected]

Posted By joe.ami on 22 Dec 2014 09:44 AM
......Maybe it's people and not the technology.