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20 Sep 2008 09:51 PM
Now, I'm sure I'll have to check with the building code where I'm building ... but, is there any reason why I can't build my own toilet?  I really like the design of a prison toilet and was thinking of making one out of something other than stainless steel.  I was also wondering about ways to get the sewage out without using PVC pipes (like most houses).  What about clay pipe?  I was thinking of building a room in the garage under the toilet that would house a ceramic composter that would be turned by a windmill, that the "crap" could just fall into.  I know that I gotta put some kind of bend in the drain to keep the stink down below.  Any thoughts/concerns/ideas ???
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21 Sep 2008 05:37 AM
The simplest solution would be a traditional privy. 

There seem to be two "must have" requirements for waste-water pipes:  the pipe must take all of the waste-water out of the house (no leaking), and it must do that reliably for decades despite abuse such as snaking.  I cannot see clay doing that; PVC does.

Is cast iron pipe still used and do plumbers still have experience with installing it?

I hope you're building out in the country with no need to *ever* sell the house.

Good luck,
Larry



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21 Sep 2008 03:50 PM
Vitrified clay pipe with gaskets has been used for sanitary sewers for many, many, many years and is still a standard product.  The Chicago suburb I lived in until '96 REQUIRED cast iron pipe with leaded joints at that time for sanitary drain piping at that time.  I do not know if they have changed.  Threaded steel pipe was permitted for vents and small (2") drains.  Remodeling was expensive!

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21 Sep 2008 04:40 PM
Well, my idea keeps the sewage out of the city sewage main, really when you flush it just drops into a room under the toilet into a composter that turns via windmill. To me, I liken it to using a composting toilet like an "Envirolet" except for doing it manually. This isn't so much a question of pipes as it is the toilet with a manual composter below. That's the part I'm most concerned about.
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21 Sep 2008 07:54 PM
Ck with the building inspector in your area!
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22 Sep 2008 12:57 PM
 REQUIRED cast iron pipe with leaded joints 
Many northern metropolitain areas still require cast iron because of pressure from unions not to change the code
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22 Sep 2008 07:35 PM
That's just not right!! I hope they 'never' form unions down here!!!!
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24 Sep 2008 02:47 PM
There are a variety of composting toilet designs in use all over the world. You'd no doubt need a special permit. Where's all the grey water going? Are you wanting to collect this compost for some special purpose? If not, a septic system is exactly what you are describing - it just happens outside the house and utilizes the grey water too.
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24 Sep 2008 02:54 PM
Posted By gregj on 09/24/2008 2:47 PM
Where's all the grey water going? Are you wanting to collect this compost for some special purpose? If not, a septic system is exactly what you are describing - it just happens outside the house and utilizes the grey water too.

I thought that 'grey water' only came from sinks, dishwashers and washing machines. Not Toilets!
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24 Sep 2008 10:36 PM
I would probably use the compost in a garden ... and yes greywater comes from sinks not toilets. That's blackwater.
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25 Sep 2008 11:13 AM
I've got a "prison" toliet in my outside privey. Works real good of course the Ladies don't like it as the seat is built in and gets cold . Mines outside mostly used as a shop privey,
They are called 3 in 1's toliet, sink, drinking fountain
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26 Sep 2008 05:15 PM
Posted By PanelCrafters on 09/24/2008 2:54 PM
Posted By gregj on 09/24/2008 2:47 PM
Where's all the grey water going? Are you wanting to collect this compost for some special purpose? If not, a septic system is exactly what you are describing - it just happens outside the house and utilizes the grey water too.

I thought that 'grey water' only came from sinks, dishwashers and washing machines. Not Toilets!

As you pointed out most homes generate a lot of grey water so I'm not sure why you didn't understand that I was asking what he was doing with his.
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26 Sep 2008 08:50 PM
Posted By gregj on 09/26/2008 5:15 PM
As you pointed out most homes generate a lot of grey water so I'm not sure why you didn't understand that I was asking what he was doing with his.

Because of this statement:
There are a variety of composting toilet designs in use all over the world. You'd no doubt need a special permit. Where's all the grey water going?

I guess because it was so closely linked to the original question, like it was related.
....jc<br>If you're not building with OSB SIPS(or ICF's), why are you building?
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