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Anybody care to comment on this building material?
Last Post 09 Sep 2009 10:29 PM by GrahamR. 9 Replies.
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want to build
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| 13 May 2009 11:25 AM |
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http://www.hib-system.com/index.php?article_id=3&clang=1
It's a hollow pre-fab wood block that gets filled with various insulating materials. It seems to me it's full of thermal bridges.
I've often wondered about all the concern over thermal bridging in conventional framing, especially since I'd always heard that log homes were warm, and they're solid wood.
I came across this material at www.freegreen.com. They're having a design contest. This is one of the materials you can do your design with.
I'm thinking either thermal bridging is not a problem in a block so thick, or this is not such a "green" material.
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Hoowood
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| 14 May 2009 02:10 PM |
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greetings from the termites in Arizona |
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Alton
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| 14 May 2009 07:13 PM |
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I am the type that likes new building systems but I believe I will pass on this one. Maybe it is just me. I wonder about how long it would last in the Southeast. |
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Alton C. Keown
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The Sipper
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| 14 May 2009 07:54 PM |
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I think that most of us will refrain from saying what we really think about the "new" system mentioned in the initial post on this thread. It's obviously someone's "baby", and I'm sure that they're serious. Having said that, if they have ready access to huge quantities of lumber "cut offs" that were destined for the landfill, the pulp factory, firewood, etc. maybe???????? The termite and thermal break issues could be addressed, albeit expensively, and......
Actually, I couldn't find the subject product on the Free Green website, maybe it's mentioned in their blog, however, there IS one "fairly well known" product listed under the catagory of "Building Systems", and that is: R-Control SIPs (Structural Insulated Panels) |
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Alton
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| 14 May 2009 08:34 PM |
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Someone has to call the baby ugly. |
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Alton C. Keown
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wes
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| 15 May 2009 06:18 AM |
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Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, Alton.
Don't know that I would want to use the system, but I find it of some interest.
Since this company is based in Germany, I wonder in any of our European friends have any more knowledge of the system.
By the way, I see that this system was chosen as one of the systems to be used in a design contest in Greensburg Kansas. How is this system so well received by the 'green' community, and I have never heard of it?
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Wes Shelby
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want to build
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| 15 May 2009 08:17 AM |
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Posted By The Sipper on 05/14/2009 7:54 PM
I think that most of us will refrain from saying what we really think about the "new" system mentioned in the initial post on this thread. It's obviously someone's "baby", and I'm sure that they're serious. Having said that, if they have ready access to huge quantities of lumber "cut offs" that were destined for the landfill, the pulp factory, firewood, etc. maybe???????? The termite and thermal break issues could be addressed, albeit expensively, and......
Actually, I couldn't find the subject product on the Free Green website, maybe it's mentioned in their blog, however, there IS one "fairly well known" product listed under the catagory of "Building Systems", and that is: R-Control SIPs (Structural Insulated Panels)[/quote]There's a design contest on their site. You have to use one of 3 sponsoring building materials, and this is one. There's this one, ICFs and some sort of limestone product.
The website for the contest is not well designed– it took me many visits to find the links to the manufacturers.
Here it is: http://www.freegreen.com/greensburg/materials-program.aspx
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Polycore
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| 15 May 2009 12:53 PM |
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This is a new technology and I respect that. I can see the similarities to ICF, without concrete of course. I am interested to see all the new building technologies that are being developed across the world. Although I would not personally purchase this system, I can respect what this company is trying to achieve.
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Woodlandluvr
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| 08 Sep 2009 10:10 AM |
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Seems an interesting technology but aesthetically it's not wonderful lol.
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GrahamR
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| 09 Sep 2009 10:29 PM |
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that is an interesting one, i dont think i have any tables that include R-Values for clay and mussel shell soaked woodchips, this makes an assembly U-value a little hard to suss out. The website does not provide plan views of any of the modules to account for the frequency of the 'plates' to factor the thermal bridging either. The power point they have looks like they could be as close as 12" though. The toxin free characteristics of the insulation seem to be a big selling point here but no mention of what looks like OSB for interior and exterior module panels. They do have a page for accolades though. Ill have to check back on the Greensburg project. Thanks for bringing this to attention. |
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