concreteForever
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| 15 Jan 2010 03:33 PM |
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Does anyone know any garage door suppliers who offer insulated overhead windows (garage doors with all-glass inserts? Has any one heard of the panes being double-paned and gas? Please see example of garage door below. |
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slenzen
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| 16 Jan 2010 01:23 PM |
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try here:
http://www.bifold.com/photo_designer.php |
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Daniel M
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| 17 Jan 2010 12:54 AM |
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Posted By slenzen on 01/16/2010 1:23 PM try here:
http://www.bifold.com/photo_designer.php
I just got a quote from them. Good news is you can use whatever glass you like as they ship without glass. Bad news is a 7x7 bifold is $11,000 without glass.
I am on a similar quest and have come across Hufcor and Renlita. I don't have prices or specs on those. |
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slenzen
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| 18 Jan 2010 11:08 AM |
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Ouch! I think clopay has some more reasonable alum frame/glass doors for residential. Also Bryce Parker and Overhead.
Quite a few different mfg listed in this thread/comments
http://www.landliving.com/articles/0000000321.aspx |
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ICFconstruction
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| 27 Mar 2011 04:55 PM |
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I am putting in all glass 10'x12' overhead doors in my great room. They will likely have hollow aluminum frames, how can I insulated the frames? The both ideas require dismantling them. The better option would be to put a long tube on my foam gun and fill the frames with one component polyurethane foam. But that will be tricky and I am worried that the aluminum will bulge as the foam expands. The other way would be to fill the frames with loose eps beads. |
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slenzen
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| 28 Mar 2011 02:07 PM |
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Very cool ICF, what doors are you using?
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cmkavala
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FBBP
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| 28 Mar 2011 09:42 PM |
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Posted By ICFconstruction on 27 Mar 2011 04:55 PM
I am putting in all glass 10'x12' overhead doors in my great room. They will likely have hollow aluminum frames, how can I insulated the frames? The both ideas require dismantling them. The better option would be to put a long tube on my foam gun and fill the frames with one component polyurethane foam. But that will be tricky and I am worried that the aluminum will bulge as the foam expands. The other way would be to fill the frames with loose eps beads.
Wonder if the internal insulation makes any difference given aluminum's ability to transfer heat/cold? Would you not need thermally broken frames? |
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ICFconstruction
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| 28 Mar 2011 09:46 PM |
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Still looking for doors, the lack of insulation in the frame is holding me back. Haas is my favorite so far. I also wonder how much good it would do to insulate the frames, but better to do it, than not do it. I have not heard of a thermally broken frame but would question the strength since an overhead door is so much larger than a thermally broken with frame. |
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slenzen
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| 30 Mar 2011 12:03 PM |
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Just came across this sliding pocket door. Supposedly a lot cheaper than the higher end sliding panel systems. http://www.plygemwindows.com/elqNow..._id=32
I'll be wanting to do the same as you ICFCONst for indoor/outdoor living and minnetonka lake views. I'd have lots of solar gain since its south facing and would want to come up w/ something for winter nights to slow the heat loss. Wonder what doors car washes use. They use mutiwall polycarb panels in their roll up doors. |
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ICFconstruction
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| 30 Mar 2011 05:43 PM |
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Plygem looks cool, but my two doors are 10x12, and pocket doors would subtract from my famous ICF walls. I knew a guy that had a car wash, insulated plastic doors, extremely high heating costs. Steven, you are going to have to come see my place. I should have doors in by mid May. |
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slenzen
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| 31 Mar 2011 11:09 AM |
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Sounds like a cool project! Keep me posted and I'd love to come by when you get your doors in. |
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ICFconstruction
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| 06 Apr 2011 08:43 AM |
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I ordered Haas doors with hollow aluminum frames, the frames have about 1" holes for the bolts every intersection. Some of the frame, vertical between windows I can not easily get to. I would like to attempt to fill the horizontal frame and edge vertical frame with one component spray polyurethane. Any advice as to how to fill, but not overfill them? |
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ICFconstruction
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| 07 May 2011 12:07 PM |
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I got my Haas 220 doors the aluminum frames are hollow. They will be installed next week. Should I insulate the frames? |
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ICFconstruction
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| 09 May 2011 04:52 PM |
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My concern is bulging the aluminum frame. The Great Stuff Pro window and door says "is proven not to buckle, distort, or bow the frame of any window or door product." And "Fill rough opening gap only 50% full to allow for proper expansion." Opinions? |
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cmkavala
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| 10 May 2011 07:27 AM |
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Brad;
window and door foam does not expand much and stays soft, you would be safe to use it, but it will be hard determine if you get a "full" fill. If it was me I would probably leave it alone and not chance ruining the door with drilled holes |
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ICFconstruction
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| 10 May 2011 07:44 AM |
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Thanks for the reply. One fortunate thing is if I do insulate the doors I will not have to drill holes. Each panel has a horizontal top and bottom hollow frame members, open on the ends.
http://www.haasdoor.com/commercial/ca/index.html
And the four vertical members for each panel have a long bolt, bolting to them to the horizontals.
So what I would do is remove the nut holding the verticals on and put the 1/4" tube connected to my foam gun all the way in the verticals. And for the horizontals I would need a 5' long tube to reach half-way through them. |
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cmkavala
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| 10 May 2011 08:06 AM |
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Brad;
with that kind of access I guess it couldn't hurt , I am just wondering how much benefit there is with the outer thermal transfer? |
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ICFconstruction
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| 10 May 2011 08:35 AM |
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"I am just wondering how much benefit there is with the outer thermal transfer?" Me too. |
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ICFconstruction
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| 17 Jun 2012 06:36 PM |
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We have gone through the first winter with our glass overhead doors in our great room. With two 10 x 12 glass overhead doors in the great room the views are wonderful. They face south and on sunny winter days the temperature in the house increased by 6-8 degrees. They are Haas brand doors with no insulation in the aluminum frames with insulated bottom section instead of glass. |
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