bigelow
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| 10 Nov 2008 04:21 PM |
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Why are the Fox Blocks so much cheaper than others? I know their advertised prices don't include the price of shipping. I also understand that not all blocks are created equally. IN the past I have used the owens corning product. In my opinion Buildblock, Logix, etc have better products, but the owens product worked just fine. What is Fox doing to keep the price down? Any ideas? I have not seen their product in person. |
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Chris Johnson
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| 10 Nov 2008 04:26 PM |
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No distributors, no outside sales reps running around the country, you want their product, you do all the work for it. Bottom line, reduced overhead. You may see a price increase pretty soon. |
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| Chris Johnson - Pro ICF<br>North of 49 |
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bigelow
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| 10 Nov 2008 04:30 PM |
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Posted By Chris Johnson on 11/10/2008 4:26 PM
No distributors, no outside sales reps running around the country, you want their product, you do all the work for it. Bottom line, reduced overhead. You may see a price increase pretty soon. Makes sense, but I feel buildblock is similar. You can go online, spec out your project, get a material takeoff list, place the order.......and they deliver to you. You do all the work. But their product is about $5/block more. They do have reps, distributors, various outlets, they don't make their own blocks, so maybe that is the cost difference....... Are the Fox blocks decent to work with. |
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PatrickT
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| 11 Nov 2008 08:28 AM |
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Bigelow,
We have used Fox Blocks on our project. We found them while at the World of Concrete show. They have good service and a good block. We poured 12' tall walls with no blow outs. We have not used other ICfs to compare but have been happy with Fox Blocks.
Patrick T
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Farmboy
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| 11 Nov 2008 11:13 AM |
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PatT, How did you pour your 12 ft walls? In lifts or at full depth? Many corners or T's? Any extra bracing? Curious. Dave |
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bigelow
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| 11 Nov 2008 02:01 PM |
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They just had a price increase as of Nov 1, 08. |
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PatrickT
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| 12 Nov 2008 07:23 AM |
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Farmboy,
We poured in 3 lifts. With 325' of wall, by the time we got back around all was good. Used home made wood bracing with bought adj turnbuckle feet. The bracing was 6' on center. We had 6 corners and 6 Ts. Future pours we will use plywood at corners due to minor uplift.
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PatrickT
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| 12 Nov 2008 07:26 AM |
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bigelow,
Call for pricing. Material cost have come down recently and the price reflects it. Monday we placed an order for full truck of 44 pallets. Due on Friday
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SoCalScott
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| 19 Nov 2008 06:16 AM |
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1) In order to get ideal pricing from Fox Block, you will need to order full truck loads. If you needed 1.5 truckloads for a particular project you would be paying full price for delivery on two truckloads, thus increasing your per unit delivered cost. (God forbid you need 1.2 truckloads worth of forms). As a contracotor, if you do enough projects to justify storing "extra" product from one project and use it on a subsequent project (and so on), it works out fine as most projects rarely use exact truckload quantities.
2) They do not have local representation to meet face to face with local building officials that might need some hand-holding,or to provide on-the-job consulting with a first time ICF users, etc.
These are the intangibles that can help to ensure that a project is done correctly and efficiently.
As far as product "performance" goes, most of your well known ICFs will work adequately if looked at in a vacuum.
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DaveJackson6
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| 04 Dec 2008 10:13 AM |
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Actually, pricing decreased Nov 1 and also again on Dec 1. All ICF vendors should be passing on decreased raw material costs and freight to the end user. Best wishes. |
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| Dave Jackson<br>Fox Blocks - The Clever ICF<br>[email protected] |
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ICFconstruction
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| 11 Dec 2008 09:45 AM |
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And that is why I like Fox Blocks. Fair pricing and they keep their marketing costs down.
Whether we like it or not we compete with cheaper inferior systems and need to keep ICF costs down even though ICFs are worth much more. |
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| Brad Kvanbek - ICFconstruction.net |
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SlimV
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| 09 Feb 2010 05:47 AM |
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Posted By PatrickT on 11/12/2008 7:26 AM
bigelow,
Call for pricing. Material cost have come down recently and the price reflects it. Monday we placed an order for full truck of 44 pallets. Due on Friday
Patrick T I know this posting is a little old but hopefully you still get this.... I am a newbie to the ICF and will be doing my first with FoxBlocks this spring. Your wood bracing interests me. DO you by anychance have some pictures of the founation all set up and braced with wood? |
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