ICF jacuzzi
Last Post 30 Dec 2008 05:27 PM by Cattail Bill. 19 Replies.
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18 Dec 2008 11:06 PM

Can a jacuzzi out of ICF work?

I would like to know if I am dreaming.

Anyone ever build one?
What are the limitations?

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18 Dec 2008 11:16 PM
There have been many pools built out of ICF so I would think a Jacuzzi would be feasible. Logix actually has a small cad detail for pool application: http://logixicf.com/media/cad/5/5.10.24-Rev.pdf

I imagine that this concept could be applied easily. However I am not sure what reinforcement would be required to hold the weight of H20. :)
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18 Dec 2008 11:26 PM
Very helpful, and appreciated!

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18 Dec 2008 11:30 PM
no problem!
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19 Dec 2008 09:24 AM
I've had the same idea and with proper steel I don't see a problem!
During some research I found 'Blue max rubber sealent' don't know how it'll react to years of chlorine but sure looks llike it can hold water pretty good. Anyone worked with this?
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19 Dec 2008 10:06 AM
Better Home Technologies out of Virgina have build several pools in so pretty cool designs. I'm not sure but I think they just went over the foam with the cement coating. I'm not that familiar with the actual project just seen the finished product.
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19 Dec 2008 01:17 PM
It boggles my mind why traditional pool builders don't offer some type of insulated pool system. I have asked the same question on some pool building forums and get a blank stare. It seems to make so much sense. I guess they lose pool heating mechanism revenue! I have only found one company to offer something, I think it was insulatedpoolkit.com
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19 Dec 2008 02:50 PM
thanx for the site slenzen
this pretty much answers my questions about icf pools. Plus they even have drawings and details. Made of polysterene walls braced and poured ?? not much diff. in that systeme and icf ! Similar end results but might be better w/icf!
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20 Dec 2008 07:33 PM
I was wondering if any ICF pools have a lights in them?
I would like to have a light in a jacuzzi if possible.

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20 Dec 2008 07:38 PM
just like with an ICF wall you would have to provide a sleeve for cable penetration at the location you want your light.
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20 Dec 2008 07:45 PM
Any concerns with potential elecctrical shortages?
How would you seal it up?
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20 Dec 2008 09:12 PM
vmg, like any other electrical appliance or light, it needs correct installation. It be best you talk with an electrician.
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21 Dec 2008 11:35 AM
We built our ICF pool last year and had water in it all summer this is a outdoor pool with 15000 gallons of water. We had one leak where the suction pipe for the pump went through the wall, we used the blue max products and where very happy with the results.
When you apply the additional coats there is a trick, wear wet socks so you do not stick to the previous coats. We have drained the pool for the winter here in Minnesota as it is 31deg below zero today and the water would be pretty hard for swimming!!!!!!!!
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22 Dec 2008 09:42 AM
Cattail,
How's that blue max product? Application and such.
What did you add over it?
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24 Dec 2008 11:18 AM
The first coat went on fine, the second coat was more of a challenge until we figured out how to do the job.
When I went to apply the second coat I had my work boots on with rubber souls they stuck to the product terrible and created damaged areas. We figured out that if I went in with wet socks and no boots that the problem was solved. I have a Graco 7900 airless sprayer so we appllied the product that way.

We rolled on the top coat using the Blue Max rubber stucco we had to thin the material some what for this application, if my memory serves me we thinned it according to the manufacturers instructions and this worked very well. We used the product in its original container for this dipping the roller in and spreading it on the walls. We did not apply this to the floor as that would be protected from the suns uv's by the water.

The results where a very blue pool from the reflection off the bottom of the pool and this was the desired result.

We have had our first year with this and 15000 gallons of water held very well, the liner stood up very well, we will be applying some additional coats of the rubber stucco product this next summer but we will get it tinted. We only have one coat of this on at this time and some of the blue max shows through.

I would have to say that the most critical thing to remember is having some pateince when it comes to dry time, we let the entire pool sit for 7 days before we filled it so that the sun could really bake the product on.

Once the liner had cured we set up 12 Culligan soft water tanks tied together in a series and turned on the spigot, the results where a crystal clear pool with very little chemical to keep it stable all summer.

We will be doing another pool that will be indoors in the next couple of years, so that we can just dump the water from the outside pool into the indoor one in the fall. We will do this the same way as we have been very satisfied with what we have, the design will be some what different but we will use the Rhino Block ICF and rebar, and the Blue Max products!
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25 Dec 2008 12:55 AM
Guys,

Just a thought....all the ICF's typically seen use EPS foam. How about XPS? This is the same material as in coffee cups . I believe TF ICF makes an XPS ICF option. Any thoughts?



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27 Dec 2008 08:51 AM
I believe the pools that Better Home Technologies built, were using TF. I did call Deb and she told me that they use a couple of coverings for pools; gunite, and vinyl liner to name a few with nice results from them. I just thought it was pretty cool that they could use a vinyl liner in them, but I guess there pool guy said it was such an easy install that would do any ICF pools they could throw his way. This was when the economy was good and he didn't need the work so they must go in pretty easy on ICF's.
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27 Dec 2008 05:20 PM
vmg, if you design your jaccuzzi, I'll gladly come over and build it for you and then the house around it, deal?
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29 Dec 2008 09:59 PM
How would you deal with the bottom of the pool - would you place foam under a poured concrete slab and set the ICF blocks on top of that?
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30 Dec 2008 05:27 PM
Because ours is an above ground pool we poured the slab first and then built the walls.

If you where going to do an in ground pool I would do this the same way, and yes I would put some 2" dow board down after the plumbing was complete and then pour the floor. The radius in the corners can be done after the walls have been completed with a simple mortar mix and a pool trowel.
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