I am curious to see if anyone has any experiences with logix block with the thicker insulation on the outside? I guess I am not sure how long it has been out but I know it is relatively new to the market. We have installed some logix and we prefer not to use them but we have been looking for a fully assembled form with the thicker insulation on the outside so I think this advantage would possibly out weigh our reasons for not using them. I am going to go a dist. and check them out but I was curoius what other opinions are.

According to the Logix website, the Logix XRV is a panel ICF that requires on-site assembly rather than "a fully assembled form" as you suggested above.

http://www.logixicf.com/media/library/documents/LOGIX%20Tech%20Bulletin%20-%20XRV%20panels496fa700be353.pdf

And looking at that website page, the XRV corners look to be a potential weak point since there is no internal reinforcement shown.

Note previous thread on the subject of the new thicker Logix ICF here:  

https://gbt.buildcentral.com/Forums/tabid/53/forumid/4/postid/49984/view/topic/Default.aspx

Arkie6

I've built several houses with Logix and never had any trouble with corners failing.

The problems with Logix stem mostly from its tendency to float and separate and I know how to overcome that at little cost.

I use the plastic web and buckle strapping that the Logix bundles are wrapped in to tie the forms at the bottom of a pour to the forms at the top. It's a bit of a a hassle but doesn't take much time. Logix webs are very strong and can take a lot of strain on these webs without worry.

rgb

Logix uses a large zip tie to tie the blocks together. They should be supplied by your distributor. If you can not get them let me know.

Thanks guys. I talked to a distributor today and I was told they don't even have pricing yet and they didnt even have marketing materials available yet. This puzzled me. I did varify it does need to be assembled so I guess we are still waiting for them to come assembled. Also unless I am mistaken it looks like the tie/furring strip stays in the normal spot and on a 6" thick foam it would be buried 3.5 inches in the foam, if so I'm not sure how I feel about that.

I also don't like the fact that I would have zip tie corners, thats just one more thing that could get missed, break, not be tight enough who knows. Now I know this would never happen to the rest of you but every once in a while we miss something. I like keeping it as simple for the guys as possible. Set the forms, place the bar, brace common seams, set stiff backs and pour.

I am going to keep checking though I think regardless I am going to use them on my personal house. I am curious to see how much an extra few inches of insulation on the outside would help. We live in Wisconsin and it is officially colder than Hell(michigan).

I received the tech bulletins a few weeks ago. Indeed the furring strips are embedded in the foam. I think it will just be a matter of time before Logix tools some thicker corner forms for the xrv system. It is really exciting though! You will be able to have up to 8" of foam on each side of the form which would net a ridiculous R66.