Wall thickness too much?
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13 Feb 2009 11:03 PM
Posted By Speed on 02/13/2009 10:45 AM

dmaceld, my wife wanted me to ask what color you used on your walls! lol

It's called "Such a Peach" from Kelly-Moore. Just don't count on your monitor, and my photo, to accurately show the color. That's in this bedroom, which is #3. Master is a light blue and #2 is "Niners Gold." Baths and utility are an ivory. Living, halls, dining, and inside of closets are "Cozy Cotton", and off white. Kitchen is a deep yellow. The trim is custom color match to Andersen window white. The garage and outside trim around doors is a white color matched via chip selection to the garage doors. All the paint comes from Kelly-Moore.

It's unbelievable how colors change under different lighting. The white that matches the garage door in sunlight has a distinct lavender hue under fluorescent, and doesn't match the garage door. The trim paint changes color under different lighting much more than do the windows, and they're the same color! In the evening, when daylight is fading, the trim has a very strong gray cast. I almost took the Cozy Cotton back because the first bit of painting with it, which was illuminated with a 500w halogen work light, was much deeper in hue than it was supposed to be. But under daylight it's just what we wanted!

Just make sure that whatever color you fall in love with at the paint store looks as good under the lighting conditions you will be looking at it most of the time.


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16 Feb 2009 04:22 PM

Speed,

       My last house was built with 8" block with 1" furring strips on both sides. That makes a wall thickness similar to ICF.While we were in that house, we learned to love the deep window sills. They give you a shelf to set plants on or whatever you want. But also it gives you the feeling that there is something substantial between you and the outside.
      
        This is one thing that we really liked about ICF and part of why we built our new house with them.

        Mac did a great job on his trim. I thought I would post a picture of another option for you. This is the smallest window I have. It is in the master bath.

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16 Feb 2009 04:46 PM
Sweet! It is interesting(but maybe the way people are now going) that you eliminated the casings. What does the window look like where it connects with the wall board(blinds up)?


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16 Feb 2009 05:13 PM

It's just a tight line. The drywall is finished and painted all the way to the vinyl on the window frame.

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16 Feb 2009 10:06 PM
Posted By PanelCrafters on 02/16/2009 4:46 PM
Sweet! It is interesting(but maybe the way people are now going) that you eliminated the casings.

Cost, pure & simple! I don't remember exactly what one drywall outfit quoted me for cost to wrap the drywall around the windows, but it was only a few hundred dollars extra. I think the MDF material cost alone was at least half that much. Adding in labor for constructing the trim, sanding, and painting, trimming the windows was a lot more money. I don't know for sure how much more, and I don't think I want to know, at this point!!

One guy I was talking to said it sounded like my house is what is called a "jewel box", not much flash on the outside but real quality on the inside. I sure like to think that's what I've achieved with quality construction, good materials but not the most expensive, energy efficient, and accessible.



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17 Feb 2009 12:53 AM
Hi, not sure how far you are on the build as yet. But have you thought of cutting the window reveal at 45% on the uprights. Can really take the look of a thick wall away, plus let in a lot more light. Also rounded upright corners can look nice.


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22 Feb 2009 02:36 PM
I didn't catch what type of ICF system you was using but a fellow in wisconsin gave me good advice on a way to improve the overall look of thick walls with small window openings.
When Framing the window bucks set the forms either 30 degrees or more on both sides to the inside of the opening. From the inside, this gives the appearance of a much larger window and creates and even larger field of view looking out from the inside due to the angle. I used TFsystem and fitting to the customized bucks was a snap. If I can figure out how to post a pic. I will.


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22 Feb 2009 03:42 PM
Here's a picture of what I tried to describe.

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07 Sep 2010 06:24 PM
arrx has a block with a brick edge


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07 Sep 2010 06:50 PM
Nice job.


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08 Sep 2010 08:23 AM
Don't stress about it.
Homes built in northern Germany are often 20+ inches thick. The esthetics are fine. Gives a nice surface to put plants, etc on.
Personaly I prefer the thick wall look. Makes the house look like there is something there. I think thin walls look cheap.

Eric


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08 Sep 2010 06:49 PM

Oh wow, forgot all about this thread. We're actually 90% done with framing on this ICF house. Walls have been up for about a month. We ended up going with buildblock ICF and vbuck window/door bucks and some decently large pella impervia fiberglass windows. Even on the smaller windows there isn't a portal effect that I had worried about. To the contrary, if you notice it at all, they offer good size very handy places to set things like plants, etc as mentioned above. Actually, for our larger windows in the master and breakfast area, they make great little window seats!




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09 Sep 2010 07:09 AM
When I started ICF Construction I thought wall thickness would be a turn off. But to the contrary customers like the mass that an ICF wall provides.


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