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10 Jan 2009 09:19 AM

$0.07 KWH basic rate - $0.025 discount per KWH for powering heat pumps = $0.045 KWH

Brown County REA electric.  Sleepy Eye MN. (southern MN)



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10 Jan 2009 11:53 AM
$0.0938 24/7

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11 Jan 2009 10:12 AM
Is anyone in Michigan running a geothermal heatpump with DTE as their electric supplier? I have a newly installed system and was trying to find out the rate code for the power.It looks like rate D1.7 is this right and if so what do you pay per KW? Thanks


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11 Jan 2009 12:11 PM
maustin,

I am a Consumers Energy customer. DTE's residential geothermal rate is 036. It requires a separate meter D 1.7 to be installed at your cost. Their rate is cheap for heating season, I think $.0546 per KWH + a $2.10 monthly service fee. It is also cheap off peak hours and weekends for AC in summer.

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11 Jan 2009 12:25 PM

Ontario, Canada.

All in = $0.131

As the 1st 'x' kWh costs less than the rest this cost is variable, but this is the ballpark including all the crap like delivery, line-loss, debt retirement, taxes, etc. 



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12 Jan 2009 06:39 AM

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Total bill devided by kwh 0.116

I figured that my most recent bill which was 230.00 all in
compared to last years at 102.00 I am paying 130.00 to heat my entire house even with downstairs running alot.

It is less than half what I paid for heating oil 10 years ago at .98 a gallon.
Eric



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12 Jan 2009 11:19 AM
Posted By maustin on 01/11/2009 10:12 AM
Is anyone in Michigan running a geothermal heatpump with DTE as their electric supplier? I have a newly installed system and was trying to find out the rate code for the power.It looks like rate D1.7 is this right and if so what do you pay per KW? Thanks


Maustin,

See my posting a few back from here.  Yes, I have DTE and I have the D1.7 rate plan.  There is no monthly service charge as someone else mentioned as far as I know.  It is a very good plan compared to what others have posted here from other sates.

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Eric D<br>Southern Michigan
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01 Feb 2009 07:29 PM
Wasn't that rate just cancelled for any new customers?


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01 Feb 2009 10:26 PM
A rose by any other name.....
DTE is again "reorganizing" and there have been (yet unconfirmed) rumblings of discontinuation.
I did attempt to reply to your message awhile ago by the way, you may want to give me direct contact information if you didn't recieve your private message.
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01 Feb 2009 10:37 PM
DTE does still list D1.5 on their site which is about 7.5/KWH and suggests other time of day options. We literally have had to deal with them day to day on a variety of issues and often wait days for return phone calls.
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24 Feb 2009 04:26 PM
.17 per KW here in North New Jersey


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24 Feb 2009 04:37 PM
conniepangan thats a big OUCH! guess I shouldnt complain about 12 cents per kwh, we could get 6 cents
per kwh if we had the geo on a seperate meter however they want to have the ability to interupt the power to the geo during peak periods and they don't allow auxillary heat to be used during that outage, we have decided that is not a very good option especially in the winter times so we pay the full 12 cent per kwh.


1500 sq ft home with 5 ton Geocomfort heat pump<br>desuperheater,3200ft of horz loop. Howard city,MI.
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24 Feb 2009 04:46 PM
Wirechief, yes..our rates is high in NJ. I just realized that why my electric bill came up to $383. I compare our usage to this forum. Our usage is normal and average, the rate is just high!


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24 Feb 2009 10:15 PM
Posted By wirechief on 02/24/2009 4:37 PM
conniepangan thats a big OUCH! guess I shouldnt complain about 12 cents per kwh, we could get 6 cents
per kwh if we had the geo on a seperate meter however they want to have the ability to interupt the power to the geo during peak periods and they don't allow auxillary heat to be used during that outage, we have decided that is not a very good option especially in the winter times so we pay the full 12 cent per kwh.

Wirechief,

If you have DTE I think someone has miss lead you about the extra meter.  It is a time of day meter, not a interupt service.  D1.7 will charge more then the lowest rate during the summer months day time.  It doesn't interupt service.

For nearly a 50% savings in power cost it would take too long to recover the cost of installing the second meter.

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Eric D<br>Southern Michigan
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25 Feb 2009 09:28 AM
My breath was taken away when I found out what this device was going to be able to do and yes it has the
ability to interupt service as it controls the common lead to the geo (required by the electric company)
Neither my installer or electrician had ever heard of this and were shocked by this requirement and even suggested I write the PUC but I think because they are a independent provider they can get away with this.
They even have the ruling that allows them to disconnect customers as needed during peak times. You are right the recovery of the installation would never be re-couped and we would always wonder when they
would remove the power and of course you have to wonder if they did it while it was running what would happen and how it might affect the system (not something i care to find out) It is not DTE, however at some point in time it might come under DTE as we are going through some tough economic times and I am certain the new restricitions on coal fired electricity plants will affect them big time.


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25 Feb 2009 09:36 AM
I should of mentioned that it isnt the meter that does the disconnect its the apparatus box associated with it , the power is monitored via a peak interupter box and the wires are routed through a dougnut  for the metering.


1500 sq ft home with 5 ton Geocomfort heat pump<br>desuperheater,3200ft of horz loop. Howard city,MI.
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26 Feb 2009 07:39 AM
National Grid Massachusetts, $.18 KWH


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