Engineer question:  What is the question?

joe

nice website; glad to see not much changed in nation wide discussion from that first GT ($300) training-seminar in May 1980, by Dr john Jones of Jones Heating and Cooling, Dayton, Ohio



how much really is save with DX compared to the 9000 KWH 3600 sq ft well insulated home considering all Heating Cooling and Instant on-demand HW and in Cooling full Heat-Recovery to 100% water Heating (loop pumps are off liine then)...?

Where I removed a 50k compresssor-dx,  the customer says Hydro-Temp (AR) Priority HW System, 48k compressors are within 5% of the DX he had 16 years, because it only had a desuperheater for his family of 5. In 4 years now. 5 x 500ft Pipes in 4ft ditch and 7ft deep in 52 deg avg soil temp.

We have homes around 11 btuh per sq ft with ducting returns well enough for 1.1/2-deg temp differences off ceiling to floors over 2 stories, and need very little radiant floor heating with properly adjusted registers.   For instance 5500 sq ft  in 6600 deg days,  uses ~ 13,00 KWH, average insulated basement of walk-out half , all fiberglass, family of 6 and all HW COOLING and Heating , inclusive.


"Most Efficient  (RATED) GT Unit in the world"
I see climate master is getting closer to Hydro-Temp (AR) efficiencies sizing 5/3 ratio HX to compressor (label-inside) BtuH's sizing.  ( As ordered for many years : H-T 30Mbtu compressor gets a 4-ton HX water coil ~ about 5/3, and only requires under 1.3 gal per ton of 50-deg well water in comparison to so many requiring nearly 2gpm/compressor-ton open well). That has always been easy to test other units  before  closing the piping to ground loops for same refrigeration-gauge readings. Hydro-Temp has not had , nor needed an ARI/AHRI sticker since 1978, and look at the list of just a few schools operating at less than 1.8 KW/Sqft/School-year for all ... about 15% less than the nearest competitors in comparisons.

You are confusing, or may be you are confused. What is your point?

In the latest I-Net adv, etc:
Others' claims, I.E.) CM=
"Most Efficient (RATED) GT Unit in the world"
I see CM
sizing 5/3 ratio HX to compressor (ARI-label-inside) BtuH's
like  www.Hydro-Temp.com  Corp (Arkansas)
H-T 30Mbtu compressor gets a 4-ton HX water coil ~ about 5/3,
and
only requires under 1.3 gal per ton of 50-deg well water
in comparison to so many requiring nearly 2gpm/compressor-ton open well).
@ 1.8 KW/ Sq Ft per School year
about 15% less than the nearest competitors in comparisons. 

C U Soon !
..

Some answer please:
or I can re word the Q - - - 

How much really is saved with DX
compared to
(a known) the 9000 KWH 3600 sq ft well insulated home

considering all Heating Cooling and Instant on-demand HW (PRIORITY 100% H-T Patented 1981)
and in Cooling full Heat-Recovery to 100% water Heating (which at that time DOES have the lloop pumps are off liine then)...?
If a Hi Eff comon GT HVAC HW 100% is only metered @ 9000 KWH... what'ya s'pose DX really would save,
<-same balance point to supplemental heat required on a same heating and cooling and HW residence>  ?




How much really is saved with DX ?

Like I wrote Joe:
I agree here and like your site

JP

What does DX save? Liitle. Nothing. Or perhaps costs by the time you buy a machinary room.

Thanks J

JP

(server sent 6 eM's and I see 'em here from you...)
No answer Needed (nan)