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02 Mar 2009 12:43 AM
Everyone is mentioning TF system but what about the Hobbs Building System. It goes up in about half the time as the blocks (i've seen a video where one Hobbs installer did the same amount of wall as the TWO block installers), and it uses 40% less concrete.
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03 Mar 2009 01:55 PM
Posted By Brent Moffat on 03/02/2009 12:43 AM
Everyone is mentioning TF system but what about the Hobbs Building System. It goes up in about half the time as the blocks (i've seen a video where one Hobbs installer did the same amount of wall as the TWO block installers), and it uses 40% less concrete.

Could you please post a link to the video?
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08 Mar 2009 06:11 PM
I just had a look at the website for Hobbs Building System and scanned through the pictures and I will ask once again, How does one place the bar in the corner with a proper overlap or do they have a different rebar pattern? The only bar I saw was 1 row or horizontal wire tied about 2 inches off of the footing and then it appears the vertical is placed as they build. but there was no pictures of horizontal being placed. Is there a video of it being done??
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15 Mar 2009 12:27 AM
The video was shot in Attawa , Canada. and I have a copy of it in Edmonton, AB. I will be playing it at the Buildex Show on tuesday and wednesday in Edmonton. It will appear on the new Hobbs web site in the next few weeks.
With repect to the horizontal rebar. There is the one row in the bottom beam attached to the dowels in the footing. The other row in located in the top beam of the system and rests in the furring assembly. There is no other rebar required with the engineering of this system. The stregth of the system is in the vertical rebar every 16" in the 4"x5.25"column surrounding this furring assembly.
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16 Mar 2009 09:12 PM
Glad to see TF finally getting some attention. It certainly isn't cause the folks at TF spend any time to market their product. They didn't even make a showing at the World of Concrete in Vegas this past month. I can knock on them cause I've written and argued the merits of the TF Systems over the years (haven't posted in some time, a year or more) and I was the only one speaking up for the system at the time.

TF is my ICF system of choice. Ease of use. Fewer problems than block ICFs and I'm not knocking block systems.
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