Looking for polyurethane SIP suppliers
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06 Mar 2011 08:44 AM
Wow....So I must have one of the few that were not munufactured correctly!! Just my luck........
Do you have any pics of these 200 homes? It would be really nice to seethe projects that you have done. Might get ya more business. 
I have pics of my Thermocore panels...wanna see?



http://thermocore.info/Thermocore_Panels_Bowing.php




http://www.facebook.com/profile.php...78&sk=wall


The groove plate provided by Thermocore was cut too narrow. The skins cannot transfer the load evenly. Nice Job!!!! Pat!






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06 Mar 2011 08:53 AM
Wow....So I must have one of the few that were not munufactured correctly!! Just my luck........
Do you have any pics of these 200 homes? It would be really nice to seethe projects that you have done. Might get ya more business. i have pics of my Thermocore panels...wanna see?
http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000840524778#!/profile.php?id=100000840524778&sk=wall

http://thermocore.info/Thermocore_Panels_Bowing.php
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06 Mar 2011 12:38 PM
Posted By BuldgedThermocorePanels on 06 Mar 2011 08:53 AM
Wow....So I must have one of the few that were not munufactured correctly!! Just my luck........
Do you have any pics of these 200 homes? It would be really nice to seethe projects that you have done. Might get ya more business. i have pics of my Thermocore panels...wanna see?
http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000840524778#!/profile.php?id=100000840524778&sk=wall

http://thermocore.info/Thermocore_Panels_Bowing.php
BTP;

your facebook photos show properly fitted plates in the window openings, so tell us what really happened with the bottom plates, they just don't magically get smaller

Chris Kavala<br>[email protected]<br>1-877-321-SIPS<br />
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24 Apr 2012 02:02 AM
Not sure about the quality of the product, but my call to Thermocore did not inspire confidence in their customer service. I had some general questions about their products and their sales rep had a real snotty attitude. He was not helpful in the least. If that is how they are before you actually buy from them, what are they going to do afterward?

I am looking for a good SIP supplier/manufacturer in the Pacific Northwest, and I am interested in both urethane and EPS panels (depending on the design or application). Any recommendations?
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24 Apr 2012 02:06 AM
Suppliers in nearby regions that can ship for a reasonable cost would be interesting too...
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24 Apr 2012 09:29 PM
Why doesn't anyone make a STEEL POLYURETHANE SIP? It's either OSB polyurethane or steel EPS.
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24 Apr 2012 09:31 PM
Posted By BuldgedThermocorePanels on 06 Mar 2011 08:44 AM
Wow....So I must have one of the few that were not munufactured correctly!! Just my luck........
Do you have any pics of these 200 homes? It would be really nice to seethe projects that you have done. Might get ya more business. 
I have pics of my Thermocore panels...wanna see?


http://thermocore.info/Thermocore_Panels_Bowing.php


http://www.facebook.com/profile.php...78&sk=wall


The groove plate provided by Thermocore was cut too narrow. The skins cannot transfer the load evenly. Nice Job!!!! Pat!



Wow, that is REALLY BAD.

So what is causing the problem? Is the glue or polyurethane causing the lamentation?

I would be hiring a lawyer if I were you...
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24 Apr 2012 10:02 PM
Posted By Lbear on 24 Apr 2012 09:29 PM
Why doesn't anyone make a STEEL POLYURETHANE SIP? It's either OSB polyurethane or steel EPS.

LEEP Inc in KY and a company in Ga produce steel skin SIPs with polyurethane cores.
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24 Apr 2012 10:14 PM
Posted By Alton on 24 Apr 2012 10:02 PM

LEEP Inc in KY and a company in Ga produce steel skin SIPs with polyurethane cores.

Alton -

Have you ever seen SIPs fail like in the above post??

It is really bad, the poor guy's walls are moving inches out of square and they will not stop moving. Something seriously went wrong with the manufacturing process.

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25 Apr 2012 05:42 AM
We supply MgO/PU SIP panels from China. There are 2 ways to composite them. First, we have 12mm MgO boards placed and spaced on the production line before injecting the PU 2 liquids. Second, we use hot melt glues to adhere MgO facing boards to a readily made PU slab. We can make them in flush/groove & tongue/spline connections as per your requirements.

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25 Apr 2012 08:46 AM
I have not seen SIPs fail.  Although I have been in many homes built with OSB SIPs, I have limited my use of SIPs to metal skin with polyurethane cores.
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25 Apr 2012 08:52 AM
Pat Egan here President of Thermocore Panel Systems.  Sorry it has taken me so long to chime in but we have been busy making panles.  As for the Borland residence, Kevin has been living in his house since 2007.  Kevin worked through a contractor to purchase his panels.  Kevin had his contractor install the panels.  Kevin's contractor did not have any experience with panels and as such there were issues during install, including adding electrical boxes in the area of question.  FOR THE RECORD, we offered to replace the panels at no cost to Kevin.  He has refused this service and this can be confirmed through his attorney Stanley Wasser.  Kevin has never brought suit against Thermocore and has refused our help in the matter.  We have sent our representitives to his house twice.  We offered to replace the panels just to make the matter go away.  Kevin said NO.  As for the sill plate we purposly have the plate ripped down so that the panel installs easily.  Ask any experienced panel installer and they will tell you this is a valuable feature.  SOOOO the sill plate is smaller by design and has been approved by our third party inspectors.  
Thermocore stands behind every panel we manufacture.  We have no sales people you deal direct with ME the owner.  If there is ever an issue you know who to call.  If anyone has any questions call me @ 317-831-8888.  I would be GLAD to fill you in on Kevin B. and answer any other questions you may have.  For 14 years we have been building the most advanced panel system on the market.  If you do not believe me take a look at our site and see the features we offer.  www.thermocore.com  The only thing I can offer to all of you is do not  choose a company based on what you read on any of these sites.  Go to thier web sites, call the comapny and ask for references.  Kick the tires and than make your choice.  Look forward to talking with you.  Pat
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25 Apr 2012 12:42 PM
Pat, I would like to know why you think the panels bow out based on your knowledge of the panels provided and your multiple site visits. Neither "first time using SIPs" or a couple of electrical boxes in a SIP wall seem to be a full explanation of why this happened.
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25 Apr 2012 02:12 PM
And...I'll comment once again.

We've been using Thermocore panels for years and will be pleased to talk to anyone about our experience with them...and with another supplier (one that was in Mocksville, NC). You can reach me at 828-524-8662 or by email at [email protected] .

We design for their 4" wall panel and have installed them on our homes from Washington State to Florida and everywhere in between. And, we have them on our own home. http://www.timberframemag.com
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25 Apr 2012 11:55 PM
I have just erected a small SIP building, I can well imagine how an inexperience contractor could mess up.

But that goes for any form of construction.
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26 Apr 2012 08:26 AM
The Thermocore and Borland residence issue is not new to this website. When structures fail there is a reason. When something goes wrong it is beneficial to the every one else to know the cause (damaged or delaminated panels, improper connections, inadequately supported loads, etc.). A couple of electrical outlets and inexperience are not adequate reasons. I find it disturbing that after all the mudslinging nobody seems to have any idea what really happened.
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26 Apr 2012 10:53 AM
Torben, that's a good point, but since Thermocore wasn't allowed to replace the panels (at no cost to the Borland's), it seems that it won't be answered. With no "autopsy", I don't know that there can be a conclusion. But if the panels weren't installed according to the manufacturer's specifications, I'd still lean that direction. And a "few" boxes might mean that the panels were cut horizontally, which would, as I understand it undermine their structural integrity.
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