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| 23 Nov 2011 02:52 PM |
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Posted By Torben on 23 Nov 2011 01:18 PM
Wow Chris you've been full of surprises on this one. Congratulations on a phenomenally innovative SIPS project. I'll certainly be interested in your results. What is the actual thickness of Magboard you are using?
each side is approximately 9/16" wwith the foam core the overall SIP is 2" thick>
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Alton
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| 23 Nov 2011 10:53 PM |
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Which companies are producing Mag Board SIPS? |
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cmkavala
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| 24 Nov 2011 08:56 AM |
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Alton;
These floor sheathing SIPs were supplied by owner and came from Magnum Building Products, were laminated in Orlando.
Problem: 4 x 8 x 2" thick weighs 200 lb per sheet, the floor sheathing is no longer a 2 man job it is a 4 man operation
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Jelly
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| 24 Nov 2011 12:49 PM |
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Wow, yeah that's a lot of weight. Was that enough to enter into the floor joist load calcs? |
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| 24 Nov 2011 01:41 PM |
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Posted By Jelly on 24 Nov 2011 12:49 PM
Wow, yeah that's a lot of weight. Was that enough to enter into the floor joist load calcs?
Matt;
The weight per sq. ft. of material is 6.25#
This job is way over designed, the Joist-Rite joist are a 12" x 14 ga. x 3" wide@ 16" oc, at the maximum spans will support 15# dead load and 125# live load, this is a commercial loading |
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Torben
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| 24 Nov 2011 09:27 PM |
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With that kind of weight I guess I'm no longer expecting a positive review. They could have used Fortocrete concrete flooring at only 4.7 psf. It is funny to be calling Fortocrete the lightweight alternative. I doubt a 7/8" EPS foam provides significant insulation especially if gaps every 4 or 8 feet. I think fortocrete is tongue & groove. |
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MagDaddy
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| 02 Dec 2011 04:58 PM |
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Check out Mag-Board.com we own the MagBoard SIP Technology |
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cmkavala
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| 02 Dec 2011 08:19 PM |
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Posted By MagDaddy on 02 Dec 2011 04:58 PM
Check out Mag-Board.com we own the MagBoard SIP Technology
someone must be infringing on your patent then, because the product did not come from you |
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Alton
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| 02 Dec 2011 08:30 PM |
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Chris,
Do you know anything about this company or its products: www.SteelForm.us |
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Alton
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| 02 Dec 2011 08:45 PM |
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Chris,
Does this company make thicker SIPS than the ones you used?
Would this type of panel be structural as used in a wall or flat roof?
Is this company shipping panels to other states?
Would the MgO skin meet the fire resistance as required by the code? |
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| 02 Dec 2011 09:05 PM |
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Posted By Alton on 02 Dec 2011 08:30 PM
Chris,
Do you know anything about this company or its products: www.SteelForm.us
Alton;
I do not , but would have an interest in there joist system |
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cmkavala
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| 02 Dec 2011 09:16 PM |
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Posted By Alton on 02 Dec 2011 08:45 PM
Chris,
Does this company make thicker SIPS than the ones you used?
Would this type of panel be structural as used in a wall or flat roof?
Is this company shipping panels to other states?
Would the MgO skin meet the fire resistance as required by the code?
Alton;
I don't believe they have the capabilty for thicker SIPs nor the certifications for a structural panel.
From my observations the panels cannot adequately span over 2 ft., skins are too brittle
I do beleive they have the fire testing but not a certfication, Their contact info was on a previous post or you could contact MagDaddy who says they have the technology
so far @ 200 lbs for a 4 x 8 sheet, they are way too heavy to handle, I hope it is my last experience with them |
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Alton
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| 03 Dec 2011 07:10 AM |
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Chris,
Thanks for the info about MgO SIPs.
I will e-mail you some additional info about Steelform. |
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| 14 Mar 2012 07:46 PM |
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The home has increased to 8,600 sq. ft. of living area, now has a 3rd. floor loft and a bigger great room, 
............... Tower has been dis-assembled made with a bigger diameter and 3 ft, higher than original  .......... intricate framing.....  |
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| 24 Mar 2012 03:23 PM |
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cutting windows........  ..........................  ............................  |
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| 06 Feb 2013 05:19 PM |
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Updated photos  underside of round roof  |
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| 06 Feb 2013 07:46 PM |
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more photos great room ceiling  Master bedroom soffit and recessed LED lighting  Rear second floor deck  |
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| 06 Feb 2013 11:26 PM |
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Chris, it appears as if that great room needs a Big Ass fan. |
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cmkavala
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| 07 Feb 2013 07:37 AM |
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Posted By ICFHybrid on 06 Feb 2013 11:26 PM
Chris, it appears as if that great room needs a Big Ass fan.
ICF, I understand that the project in East Hamptons has 2 BigAssFans, the Architect is supposed to send some updated photos |
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ICFHybrid
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| 07 Feb 2013 09:15 AM |
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My concern is two fold. Firstly, I don't think that fan has the oomph to do the job in that great room. Secondly, it just LOOKS too small in there. Folks on my build will tell you there is nothing I hate more than a change order, once something is done, but I'd do it for that fan. The BigAss fan continues to be one of the major WOW factors on my build. I'll try to remember to get an image today. |
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