Posted By dragon on 10/30/2009 1:54 AM
I live south of Tokyo, Japan where we are building a slab foundation house. Not that cold really. It may snow once or twice in the winter and it melts right away. This shows you our average temps. It is very very humid here in summer as well.
http://www.climate-zone.com/climate/japan/fahrenheit/tokyo.htmThe reason I want radiant is because central A/C and heating doesn't exist and all builders are fighting against my request for central (they all want to use wall hanging AC/heating units). I know it's a strange country. Radiant floor is more favorable here.
Here are my questions:
1. Since it is not that cold here, will I be better off with slab or floor panel. This is what concerns me the most as I peruse this forum and scour the internet. Not so concerned about long term running costs because house will probably be a rental unit some day.
Is floor panel (warmboard, or DIY) more favorable to slab heating for mitigating hardwood floor damage?
2. We don't have that much space for an extra boiler...I'm thinking below the stairs. Because of this and #1, have consider electric.
3. Do I need heating for attic or will 1st and 2nd keep 3rd warm?
4. Would like to do solid wood floor, but will strongly consider veneered wood floor.
5. Do the folk on this forum know of dealers for radiant equipment in China. We're importing a few things from China. Costs for Japanese building materials for DIYers is very expensive.
6. I read that radiant is not a good choice for hardwood floors. Do folks here agree?
House will be square with 1st, 2nd, and 3rd attic. 1st and 2nd are 770 sq each and 3rd is like 450 sq ft.
Regards,
Marcus
Hardwood floors are not a problem with radiant particularly at the relatively low heat loads you'll be seeing in Tokyo. But if you're intending to use the radiant for both heating and cooling, radiant ceilings will be more effective on the cooling end, yet stil decent on the heating side.
Is the attic living space, or is it dead-storage or...??
Each floor of living space will need it's own heating & cooling, but the heating & cooling loads are likely to be different on different floors. (It's more like the 1st & 3rd will keep the 2nd warmer. The 3rd floor has the most surface area exposed to the outside since it's coupled to the attic & roof. The first floor has unheated earth below it, but that earth isn't very cold in Tokyo.) If the attic is dead-space, as long as the roof is insulated and you don't have insulation in the attic floor it is protected from freezing, but may run seasonally hotter/colder than the fully-conditioned living space.
If you're using the radiant for both heating and cooling, an air-source heat pump that has both heating & cooling modes seems like the right solution here. Radiant cooling will not remove humidity, and on extremely humid days you have to guard against condensation on the radiant panel, but Tokyo isn't nearly as humid as the tropics- you can get significant sensible cooling performance out of it. Standalone room dehumidifiers are probably sufficient for handling the latent loads on the muggiest days.
As for equipment suppliers in Asia I'll step out here- beats me. (Does Daikin make hydronic-output heat pumps? If yes, do handle both heating & cooling?)
How are you heating hot water? The relatively small heating loads should be very amenable to combined space-heating & hot-water setups, and you should be able to get the radiant to work at temps under typical Japanese extreme-boiling-bath temps.