thagreen
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| 03/12/2009 1:01 PM |
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Hi all,
Will be building a new residence (2000 sq.ft. , icf to roof bungalow) in Ottawa, On.
Wondering if combining electric and natural gaz will be cost effective. Since I"ll be getting two service delilvery charges am I offsetting the projected monetery efficiency? Or is the nat. gaz that much more efficient and cost effective to bring in. |
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wes
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| 03/12/2009 2:05 PM |
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I am not sure I understand the question. What do you mean by the term 'service delivery charges'? Is the location so remote that it does not have electricity readily available? Will you not be using electricity in your home, to power lights, tv's, refrigerator, etc.?
The use of gas appliances for heating, cooking, and drying laundry in homes that have electricity is farly common, these days.
And you can use a gas furnace to heat part of your home and an electric furnace to heat another part of your home, if you like.
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Wes Shelby
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Jelly
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| 03/12/2009 4:42 PM |
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| He probably means the initial cost of placing the gas service. |
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Brock
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| 03/12/2009 4:48 PM |
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| I would agree about the cost of connecting up to the natural gas supply. Also the monthly cost of being connected to the natural gas line, for us it is about $15 for each service a month no matter how much or little you use. |
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| 03/13/2009 12:05 AM |
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| Or does he mean propane, which has to be delivered and stored in a tank?
I hate electric stoves, so I plan on having propane for that, and I'd like a backup generator since the power can go out in the area I'm looking to build in, and that can run on propane, too. There are no natural gas lines in the street to hook up to.
Having more than one energy source makes some sense. |
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thagreen
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| 03/13/2009 10:42 AM |
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Sorry about the confusion.
I will have elec. service no matter what (lights, etc.) . What I wanted to know was would is it better to do all elec. or combine w/natural gaz, no propane please! Will brigning in both services be at my advantage or not. Spoke to mechanical guy this morning but still want you's guys opinion. Thanks!
Cheers!
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wes
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| 03/13/2009 1:13 PM |
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First, consider the cost of natural gas service (tap on fees, line installation, meter fees, etc.). Your local utility should be able to provide most of these numbers.
Second, will you use the natural gas for anything other than heating? (hot water, dryer, cooking)
If you only use it for heating, what is the minimum monthly fees during the non-heating season?
Next, what are the installation cost differences? gas furnace vs. electric.
Finally, what what are the anticipated monthly costs for heating, gas vs. electric.
There are no 'rules of thumb' that can be applied to any of the above questions, they must be addressed on an individual basis, for each project.
Then, the final decision is up to you. |
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thagreen
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| 03/13/2009 1:41 PM |
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Thanks for the replies!
Looking to go w/gaz condensing furnace for radiant floor(basement and attached garage), forced ground level and dhw all in one plus hrv seperate.
Any of you had similar senarios and regret or glad of the path chosen!
Does look like I'll go w/both .
Cheers! |
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RichColorado
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| 03/14/2009 12:16 PM |
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Going all electric for a passive solar home in Boulder Colorado. We are doing electric boiler because we will have 6kW PV system, passive solar and active solar heating. So electric boiler will be backup to active hydronic solar which is backup to passive solar. The heat loss / demand will be too low to justify paying $15/month just for gas meter. The $180/year for just the meter charge (no actual natural gas) is more than the projected annual heating costs.
Plus there will be a savings for no install of gas line, meter, venting etc.
Plus we will get a slight property insurance break for no gas.
Biggest objection to all electric homes is cooking and I believe the new induction cooktops are equal to cooking with gas.
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Jelly
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| 03/14/2009 5:52 PM |
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Posted By RichColorado on 03/14/2009 12:16 PM
Biggest objection to all electric homes is cooking and I believe the new induction cooktops are equal to cooking with gas.
Yep, foodies are big gas proponents. But combustion in the home is a big no-no for air quality, asthma, allergies.
Still I don't like those induction cooktops - I'm going with the old style electric coils. Good for me because they're the cheapest to put in!
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pyropaul99
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| 03/15/2009 3:02 PM |
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If you go all electric, you should consider a heatpump for heating and an induction cooktop for cooking. They have the responsiveness of gas and the ease of cleaning of a smooth surface electric cooktop. Only thing you can't do is char things directly - for example, I like to throw pita bread directly onto the flame of a gas cooktop. Still, you can always use the BBQ for that.
Paul in Montreal. |
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