MCQ treated wood
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28 Apr 2009 12:18 PM

Has anyone heard of yet another recommended treated-wood product that can be used for sub-surface contact?  MCQ is already deteriorating, ACQ constructed systems fall apart after time because the fastneners disappear (corroded away).  I have a treated-wood framed basement to construct in the near future and do not want it to become a liability for at least 20+ years and that is not going to happen with MCQ or ACQ.

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28 Apr 2009 01:20 PM

Have you looked at Timbersil treated wood.  I think it is safe enough to eat off of and is so inert that it should last a very long time.  See: 
http://www.timbersilwood.com/

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28 Apr 2009 01:45 PM
Okay, I went to their WEb site and read the info provided.  It sounds like a good product but probably not for what I need.  It looks as though it might be considerably more expensive than the "old" fashion treated- wood products.  More like hardwoods.  Thanks, though.
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28 Apr 2009 02:42 PM
Is there any particular reason you wanted to go with wood? I like wood framed houses and all, but I have always felt reinforced concrete is the way to go below grade.
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06 May 2009 09:46 AM
CCA treated wood is what you used to find before the industry voluntarily removed it due to fear of the Chrome and Arsenic in it (which I can tell you wouldn't do anything to anyone unless you are licking the boards or using them as cutting boards in your kitchen).

CCA is still approved for use in Permanent Wood Foundations (PWF) according the American Wood Protection Association (AWPA), if it is allowed by your local building code. It falls under AWPA Use Catergory 4BA 4.2 and if you are subject to inspections, make sure the lumber has a stamp or mark that says PWF or sometimes they will have FDN (for foundation) and it needs to say ADAT or KDAT to signify that the lumber was dried after treatment. Treated Plywood for PWF use also falls under AWPA 4BA 4.2, and can be CCA for such use. You should be able to find a lumber yard that can order CCA treated wood for PWF.

Make sure you use stainless steel fasteners. Hot dip galvanized can be used, but nothing beats stainless steel.

One final recommendation. When you cut treated wood, you basically negate the treatment. The treatment in wood only penetrates so far into the wood, so when you cut it or drill a hole, you basically create an opening for decay to go into the untreated part of the wood, and now your wood won't last. This is true whether it's CCA, ACQ, MCQ, whatever.

You should be able to find online or sometimes at the local store some Copper Naphthenate or CuNap. Copper Napthenate is another wood treatment, though not considered a pesticide, so you don't need any special license or anything to use it.
Brush some of that on the holes and cuts in your treated wood to buy you some protection where you compromised the treatment. Another option would be to use some sort of waterproofing.

As always, use the best waterproofing and water management practices for wood foundations, and you should be good to go.


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