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| 09/16/2009 8:05 AM |
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I know it's hard to believe, but we are building a near-zero energy house that can withstand hurricane force winds up to 240 mph, and we have the test results to prove it. It will be termite and insect proof, waterproof, mold and mildew proof, soundproof, an have 15 times more insulating value than a stick-built or concrete block house.
We are having a concrete roof put on. What's the point of having walls that can withstand a cat 5 hurricane and a wood truss roof that'll blow off. Our concrete roof can withstand winds up to 300 mph.
-Tom
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| 09/16/2009 10:45 AM |
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Oh lookie... a spammer promoting his product in all his first 4 posts. And fibbing about it too, in the subject title. It's NOT Leed certified.
From the spammer's website:
We are working closely with our LEED Home Provider to ensure that all houses built with Aeonian Bricks are LEED certified.
Not only LEED certified, but certified at the Platinum Level.
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Aeonian Brick
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| 09/16/2009 11:00 AM |
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Bill, I absolutely apologize if you or anyone else took offense to what I wrote. Please allow me to explain myself. We hired a LEED Home Provider as a consultant. When she did the prelimenary questionairre, our house would be LEED certified at the Platinum level. If you would like to chat with her about it, I've provided the company's contact information below. The Home Energy Group is based in the Charleston, SC area, here is there website link: http://home-energy-group.com.
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tesla-was-right
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| 09/16/2009 12:19 PM |
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| Looks good to me. It is high time Americans get over the firewood and toxic waste we build with.
Do not worry about the vitriol hurled at you for showing your product to thise who have embraced ignorance because it makes them feel secure.
Only certain ones can openly advertise without getting called out.
It just means you are not "in the club"--a club that is busy clinging to thier predispositions and are afraid of the future. |
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renangle
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| 09/16/2009 12:54 PM |
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I'm going to lean with DallasBill on this one. Tom is the VP of Marketing for Aeonian Brick, which has a Corporate base that is located near Charleston, SC (I did a little research). Since you are located there is only seems wise to work with "The Home Energy Group", based in Charleston, SC. I also agree that Tom has embellished a little on the LEED reference as well. A LEED Platinum Checklist and LEED Platinum are two different things.
This website began as a forum to discuss ICF construction, which I would argue is as strong as an Aeonia Brick home. To me it seems that Tom's initial tread(s) are seeking to really simply try to get some free advertising, which is normally discouraged here. Tom seems to be new, so I don't think he is trying to upset people, but he is unaware how this site normally works. If you would like to strictly advertise call up the monitor of the forum and talk with them.
Tom, also, posts like that often will get deleted by Jamie.
Just giving you my thoughts.
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The Sipper
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| 09/16/2009 3:26 PM |
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So, I didn't think that there was anything wrong with Aonian Brick's initial post. He didn't mention LEED, and I didn't feel that his post constituted "spam".
Many others have spread the word about their products and services on the GBT forums, without such severe criticism. I also, thought that his response was businesslike, and tempered. (I'm not criticizing Dallas Bill's remarks, just expressing my own opinion)
Having said that, the claims made in the subject post were a bit "lofty' in my opinion but if these guys can deliver what they're advertising, they should gain some marketshare. Of course cost will enter the equation at some point.
While I make my living promoting ICF's and SIPs, (and support this website with a small monthly contribution) I understand, and support, the concept of new technolgy and competition. Also, I thought that this, the "Green Building General Forum", was the proper place for this thread, since there are specific forums for ICFs and SIPs.
Lastly, again in my opinion, if any post on this thread should be deleted it would be the one by "TWR". Talk about "vitriol"! primarily, personal insults, sarcasm, etc. as usual. Now, if he follows his usual pattern, he'll post a very lengthy excerpt from some obscure "study", or something of that nature, that is designed to reinforce the concept that he is the ultimate authority on all of the topics covered in the GBT forums, and that all the rest of us are all just "ignorant morons", that just don't get it.
That's all I had on that.........for now.
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Aeonian Brick
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| 09/16/2009 3:41 PM |
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| Wow. I am more than impressed with both side of this "tempest in a teapot" that I've created. I feel like a politician that got caught doing a good thing. It's true, no good deed goes unpunished. I am very proud of our product, and didn't intend to break the rules. It will be difficult for me to participate on this blog and NOT talk about what I do... it's what I do. So with that said, perhaps I bid you adieu. |
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Bruce Frey
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| 09/16/2009 3:59 PM |
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Posted By Aeonian Brick on 09/16/2009 8:05 AM Click here to see a picture of the house and floor plans. We are having a concrete roof put on. What's the point of having walls that can withstand a cat 5 hurricane and a wood truss roof that'll blow off. Our concrete roof can withstand winds up to 300 mph. -Tom
When I clicked on "here," I got your promotional website, not pix of your project. While your website is a bit of a turn-off for me personally because of the way it is written, I would at least like to see some pix of your blocks and roof in action.
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Alton
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| 09/16/2009 4:22 PM |
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I have seen this product demonstrated at a trade show in Orlando a few years ago when it was in its early stage of development. I am happy to see it reappear. We need more ways to build better. And I do consider Aeonian Brick to be a better way.
I would consider using this product if I do not have to jump through too many hoops. For this product to be a success and gain market share it has to be readily available and reasonably priced. My concern at the present time would be the freight to ship this heavy material from the East coast. |
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ergodesk
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| 09/16/2009 5:42 PM |
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Posted By Aeonian Brick on 09/16/2009 3:41 PM
Wow. I am more than impressed with both side of this "tempest in a teapot" that I've created. I feel like a politician that got caught doing a good thing. It's true, no good deed goes unpunished. I am very proud of our product, and didn't intend to break the rules. It will be difficult for me to participate on this blog and NOT talk about what I do... it's what I do. So with that said, perhaps I bid you adieu.
How about a "PATENT" any progress on that front? |
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tesla-was-right
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| 09/16/2009 5:45 PM |
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Slipper say ---- Now, if he follows his usual pattern, he'll post a very lengthy excerpt from some obscure "study", s---
The "obscure study" I quoted is called Wikipedia.
If it is obscure to you that says more than I ever could.
tesla-was right--and so am I |
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robinnc
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| 09/16/2009 5:51 PM |
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I agree about the web site..It needs ALOT of work! It need alot more info on there instead of just claims this and that. How can a brick insulate 15x more than a stick house???? A standard stick with 2x4 is R13.....you'er saying this will be R195.......please.......NO sheetrock.....really......HOW????????....etc....etc.....etc.....
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ergodesk
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| 09/16/2009 6:59 PM |
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Posted By Aeonian Brick on 09/16/2009 8:05 AM I know it's hard to believe, but we are building a near-zero energy house that can withstand hurricane force winds up to 240 mph, and we have the test results to prove it. It will be termite and insect proof, waterproof, mold and mildew proof, soundproof, an have 15 times more insulating value than a stick-built or concrete block house. Click here to see a picture of the house and floor plans. We are having a concrete roof put on. What's the point of having walls that can withstand a cat 5 hurricane and a wood truss roof that'll blow off. Our concrete roof can withstand winds up to 300 mph. -Tom
Ah! yes it it very hard to believe, all these specs and almost 1000's of web pages with the Zero you quote pointing to any scientific facts presented about the product.
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The Sipper
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| 09/16/2009 8:51 PM |
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T-W-R.........I think that most of the regular participants to these forums get my point.
Now, for those who are actually interested and involved in the actual discussion that was started by Aeonian Brick. I'll admit that I haven't learned enough as yet about the product to be able to intelligently critique it. At this point it appears that there is at least one positive comment from someone who has seen the product. Several others are asking mostly legitimate questions, albeit, in some cases, in a pretty aggressive manner. I hope that the instigator of this thread will come back, and answer these questions, and address the issues raised. I, for one, want to be aware of the strengths and weakness of my competition. In my mind this is all part of the process of informing the public so that they can make their own decisions in regard to the building system that may best serve their individual requirements. |
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| 09/17/2009 3:32 AM |
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Posted By Aeonian Brick on 09/16/2009 8:05 AM I know it's hard to believe, but we are building a near-zero energy house that can withstand hurricane force winds up to 240 mph, and we have the test results to prove it. It will be termite and insect proof, waterproof, mold and mildew proof, soundproof, an have 15 times more insulating value than a stick-built or concrete block house. Click here to see a picture of the house and floor plans. We are having a concrete roof put on. What's the point of having walls that can withstand a cat 5 hurricane and a wood truss roof that'll blow off. Our concrete roof can withstand winds up to 300 mph. -Tom
Tom;
so to clarify...........do the walls blow out at 250 and the roof stay in place to 300?
Insect proof? .........what it the guarranty if someone finds a bug in the house 
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| 09/17/2009 5:57 AM |
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The website says "Insulates with an R-45 thermal mass and an R-20 heat resistance coating."
What does "R-45 thermal mass" mean? And what is this "R-20 heat resistance coating"? |
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| 09/17/2009 7:05 AM |
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| OK, After reading about the house with no studs, sheetrock, insulation and all the other attributes, then seeing the threads, I figured it out. It's a completely environmentally friendly IGLOO ! Glenn |
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| 09/17/2009 11:33 AM |
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@ Arkie 6 -I don't know, but from reading the title, it definately isn't insulation.
I wonder what the interior walls will be made of? Even concrete houses usually use wood for partition walls. |
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Alton
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| 09/17/2009 1:05 PM |
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The interior walls are made of Aeonian Brick also. However, the bricks for the interior walls are only 4.5" thick. No wood or drywall needed in home - only paint to finish sealing the walls.
By the way, the original name for this product was Quick Brick.
I do not sell any products.
I do donate a lot of my free time to interesting projects in the Southeast. |
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Alton C. Keown
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| 09/17/2009 1:14 PM |
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To: The Sipper and Alton
Thank you for the kind words, however, I don't think this is the type of forum for our company.
Tom Mitchell, VP of Marketing
Aeonian Brick Homes of SC
1025 W. 5th North St.
Summerville, SC 29483
tom@aeonianbricks.com
http://aeonianbricks.com
(843) 851-2830 Office
(843) 814-2007 Cellular |
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