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Jim MillerUser is Offline
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07/16/2008 3:15 PM  
Any experienced contactors in Eastern Washington State using ICF construction. I have one contact only, but would like to know if more are available.
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07/16/2008 9:10 PM  
Jim,

Where in eastern WA? That is a lot of territory.

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07/16/2008 11:04 PM  
Omak, Washington....Okanogan Valley
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07/17/2008 12:35 AM  
Jim,

We have a contractor doing a house for us in Winthrop. Rhinehart Construction. http://legacyicf.com/P16.htm will give you a link to his project and if you click on "Big Valley View Cabin" it will take you to see current photos and the Architect firm that designed the cabin. Mark and his wife have built a few homes for this firm in the Methow and Okanogan Valleys. A very fine craftsman.

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07/17/2008 10:03 AM  

Hello Jim, below is Quad-Lock's dealer who can give you a number of contractors:

Boise Cascade
Contact: Don Tietz
Get a quote or send an e-mail
Tel.: (800) 541-0529
Fax: (208) 395-7673 (computer fax)

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PO Box 13389
Spokane, WA 99213

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07/18/2008 7:33 PM  
Try finding Joe Wallace, he does an excellent job but I've lost contact with him years back.

Dave
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07/21/2008 12:31 AM  
As a newbee to the ICF world, I am reading about lots of products. Everyone claims to have a 'superior' product, thanks to Madison Avenue, we all have learned good marketing. However, they all seem to 'build a wall' when finished. Is there a standard, or is it personal preference, or based on cost, what you can get in your area that is the ultimate differentiator. So the long winded question is, what is the best product for a simple single home. Simple structure with a passive solar design.
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07/21/2008 1:27 AM  
Jim,

I think you are correct, that at the end of the day it is just foam hanging on the outside of concrete. What is the best form??? I have used about 10 different products and have stayed with the product that fits our company and goals best. I try to take an objective approach and not listen to the hype, because like you say, everyone has a superior product. What you need to find is a contractor that fits your needs and then listen to their advice as to what product that they have had success with. Because as the old adage goes you can lead a horse to water but you can't make them drink. Too many times I have showed a contractor a different technique or product that in my opinion and experience works great, to just see them flonder because they have their own opinions and experiences and they are not in sync with ours.

Find a contractor, listen to their advice.

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07/21/2008 9:57 AM  
Here is a copy of an article from the Green Building Talk archive.  It may help.

What is the best ICF system to use?

by Pieter VanderWerf & Christina Neamtu

So what makes a good ICF system? What guidelines should you use when choosing a particular system? How can you make sure that you choose the system that's right for you? Choosing the appropriate ICF system can seem like a daunting task if you're a homeowner, but it's actually less of a burden than you might guess.

That's because, if you are the homeowner, you shouldn't be choosing the system anyways- the best party to make that choice is the contractor. Why? The contractor and his crew will be the ones working with the product on a day-to-day basis. An experienced contractor is familiar with and prefers to work with a particular product; choosing a different product for him can result in a costly learning curve, which includes the mistakes, time, and money it takes to master a new system.

So, as a homeowner, your decision should be based on what contractor you select. Pick a good one, and let them choose the system. It'll mean a lot less headaches down the road for everyone involved.

Now if you're a contractor, the responsibility of choosing the system does come down to you. If it's your first ICF project, there's a lot to consider. What criteria should you look for?

The most crucial characteristics of ICF systems change so quickly that quantifying and comparing them can be difficult. For example, geographic availability, service level, R-value, dimension consistency, and price are criteria that are difficult to pin down and may not be uniform depending on the situation.

But don't give up hope-here are some things that will help you get through your first ICF project:

  1. Find the systems that have good local technical support. You'll have a lot of questions when you start out, so you'll definitely want a system that can guide you to the answers. Find a system that has a nearby distributor who visits job sites, has really good manuals, and phone support.
  2. For each of these, contact local contractors who have used the product. Better yet, visit their job sites to see the products in action. You'll be glad you did.
  3. Get a second opinion. Maybe a third. Check out ICF Talk and the product descriptions in this site to find out what other users are saying, and always remember to ask lots of questions. Your first ICF project will be a challenge, but with the right resources and support, it will also be a very rewarding experience. Let us know how it goes. We wish you the best of luck with your new project!

Do you have more questions about this topic? Or would you like to share your experience and advice? Join the discussion at ICF Talk.


Hope this is helpful

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07/23/2008 4:28 PM  

Stan Carter Construction
Okanogan, WA
(509) 422-4756

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07/26/2008 7:42 PM  
Jim : Call Chuck Gallup in Tonasket...he will be able to give you good info on local installers.
He places concrete for a living, and knows them all. Cheers.
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08/02/2008 9:31 PM  
Thanks dave,

I have only had time to view the site about every 6 months or so. We are still here and kicking.

Jim, my phone number is 509 539 2430 if you would like to contact me.
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