WI HANK
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| 07 Aug 2009 08:12 PM |
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I am building a detached workshop/Garage, I am familiar with SFPF (slab and/or Grade beams). I have built 3 homes using Shallow Frost Protected Foudations w/radiant In-floor heat, but stick built. I want to build my garage w/12' walls with 6" ICF (Fox Block) I would typically go 8" deep, 12" wide then 45 degree my way up to my 4" slab thickness. I have been told that I should go 12" deep to handle the additional weight of the ICF walls. I am building in sandy soil, putting in Radiant In-Floor heat, and the building site is located here in Western Wisconsin. Have any of you built a similar project, or does anyone have any suggestions? FYI-I contacted my local building inspector and he told me that there is not a code that dictates how deep I need my SFPF to be (Detached garage) as long as the concrete under the ICF can handle the load. I will also be using 2" high density insulation. Thank you, WI Hank |
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jonr
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| 07 Aug 2009 10:35 PM |
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I've always seen a minimum of 12" depth in references. But are you asking about footing thickness/strength? As I recall, that is well specified by code.
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WI HANK
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| 07 Aug 2009 10:42 PM |
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Just wanted to know if a 12" depth would be strong enough for 6" ICF 12 walls, or should the depth be more than 12". Thanks |
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jonr
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| 07 Aug 2009 11:04 PM |
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I am no expert, but as I read it, that is more than enough footer thickness for the footing width and wall thickness you have selected. |
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WI HANK
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| 11 Aug 2009 06:03 PM |
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Thanks jonr, my building permit should be anyday. My plan is to from the perimeter of my SFPF - slabe on grade with a 2 x 12 w/2" foam on the sides and bottom of the footing, that will give me a net depth of a 9 1/4 " footing. |
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arkie6
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| 12 Aug 2009 06:23 PM |
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Posted By WI HANK on 08/11/2009 6:03 PM Thanks jonr, my building permit should be anyday. My plan is to from the perimeter of my SFPF - slabe on grade with a 2 x 12 w/2" foam on the sides and bottom of the footing, that will give me a net depth of a 9 1/4 " footing. Have you considering using Fast Foot instead of that 2x12 for your footing forms? Fast Foot link
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WI HANK
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| 12 Aug 2009 07:23 PM |
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Arkie6, thanks for the link. I checked it out, i'll have to do some more thinking. I can see how it would eliminate being so fussy with the bottom footing. |
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woulfcc
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| 18 Aug 2009 11:09 PM |
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You might try the first row of forms wet set with your rebar wet setin the slab.
Just think how the floor and wall can be poured as a beam. |
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eric monkman
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| 22 Aug 2009 12:33 PM |
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Hank, have you run this by a P Eng ?
The selection and placement of steel re-inforcing plays as big a role as footing depth in your case. |
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