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10/21/2009 10:30 AM  

When using Lite-Deck or similar concrete floors, how do you run your plumbing and electrical up between floors?

I'll cut a groove into the ICF up to the ceiling, but would I then need to hammer drill through the floor in every place I need to run a wire?

Or do you pre-plan enough that you have a chase pre-installed for all you wiring and plumbing lines?

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10/21/2009 5:08 PM  
if you provide your email/mailing address we will be glad to send you our installation manual...
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10/21/2009 6:23 PM  
Kicker,
Do you mean vertically through the floor? If so, you can place a sleeve anywhere NOT in a beam section.

If you mean in the floor system, both electrical and plumbing should run parallel the beams, in-between them.

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10/21/2009 6:29 PM  
Hi Peter,
 
I've sent you an email, but having the info on this forum as well could be helpful for someone else in the future.
I understand being able to run utilities in the formed chases, and most of the plumbing / large wiring will be installed before the pour. The part that I'm wondering about is the small wires and pex lines to be run between floor levels.

Do you leave 12" long pieces of conduit stubbed up through the inside of the walls for future use?
 
 
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10/21/2009 6:32 PM  
Posted By ICFconstruction on 10/21/2009 6:23 PM
Kicker,
Do you mean vertically through the floor? If so, you can place a sleeve anywhere NOT in a beam section.

Yes, between two floors, running vertically. When you pour a job, do you place sleeves every six feet or so to run your wiring up through?
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10/21/2009 7:11 PM  
To run Romex vertically is easy, if the IFF (Insulated Floor Form) is in an ICF structure. Just keep in the wall, in the portion of the ICFs that you keep, in-between the holes you cut for the beams. I hope that makes sense, I would just use one of those long flexible wood bits and put them in after the floor is poured. Or of course you could put some sleeves before the pour, just keep them in the wall so you don't have any chases.

Plumbing drains and electrical coming down, or going up, from an interior wall will require sleeves.

I have not encountered a job requiring a wiring pass-through every six feet. I think usually the electrician has the levels on different circuits.

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10/21/2009 9:20 PM  
Posted By ICFconstruction on 10/21/2009 7:11 PM
To run Romex vertically is easy, if the IFF (Insulated Floor Form) is in an ICF structure. Just keep in the wall, in the portion of the ICFs that you keep, in-between the holes you cut for the beams. I hope that makes sense, I would just use one of those long flexible wood bits and put them in after the floor is poured.

Take this picture for example: http://www.quadlock.com/images/insulated_concrete_forms/floors/Quad-Lock_Quad-Deck_Corner_Illustration.jpg

To run vertical between floors after the pour would mean drilling through 3-4" of concrete if you don't have a sleeve in place.


I have not encountered a job requiring a wiring pass-through every six feet. I think usually the electrician has the levels on different circuits.

We will have the main panel in the garage, and will feed all circuits from there. I will need to run at least 40 sets of wires through the floor in various locations to power the upstairs and basement.

I can put sleeves in before hand, just thought there might be an easier or more elegant solution to this...
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10/22/2009 7:18 PM  
Maybe this can help...
Preplan and use PVC sleeves - secure in place with sprayfoam - anywhere but through the beams...

http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/4673/98363250.jpg

http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/7193/60321320.jpg
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10/29/2009 8:04 AM  
To run a single or double romex runs you would not need a 3-4" hole. And you can put them in before or after the floor is poured. You put them in the EPS of the walls, between the beams.

Bigger holes, like plumbing should be sleeved ahead of time, between the beams.

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10/29/2009 10:46 AM  
Thanks for all the replies, I'll plan for a few common locations and put in some PVC sleeves to use are chases.
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