Stucco step at the SIP factory
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08 Jun 2007 03:42 PM

I was talking with the Stow rep today. He suggested that the best way to seal walls prior to lath is to roll or spray on their Emerald coat. The fastest way to do this is probably by reloading the SIP stack on delivery and applying the material one at a time. But it would be even better to have it applied at the factory. Anyone tried this???

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09 Jun 2007 06:01 AM
properly installed paber back lath works the best
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09 Jun 2007 07:19 AM
Chris,

I haven't used the paperback lath, but would venture by definition this isn't going to work as well. First a paper product is going to deteriorate. Second you are trying to make the wall waterproof and would think you need to seal the wall rather then seal the lath. Perhaps this is why your paperback lath is being eliminated at least in Florida.

http://contractorsinstitute.com/flslctm.html

My point is that the SIP factories have an opportunity to save time and money by offering a better product. If the panel is treated before it arrives on site and can be done automatically, it virtually eliminates a step, provides for delivery of a product that can weather better and hopefully costs less then site application. In fact best case scenario would have the ends prepared as well so that the panel is water tight.
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09 Jun 2007 08:32 AM
....and sealing the joints ??
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09 Jun 2007 03:09 PM
mmacgowa;

the "paper' is felt - same as roof underlayment, it is not being eliminated in Florida. Your idea sounds good but not practical in a manufacturing plant, it would require double handling product the same as in the field. It also does not dry immediately dry , tying up precious floor space. people are already screaming about the high cost of panels vs. stick.
If you use steel panels you don't need to worry about coating them ,they are already water tight.
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09 Jun 2007 03:09 PM
maccgowa;

the "paper' is felt - same as roof underlayment, it is not being eliminated in Florida. Your idea sounds good but not practical in a manufacturing plant, it would require double handling product the same as in the field. It also does not dry immediately dry , tying up precious floor space. people are already screaming about the high cost of panels vs. stick.
If you use steel panels you don't need to worry about coating them ,they are already water tight.
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09 Jun 2007 05:06 PM
The joints are taped and filled. While there would be some exposure on site, I believe the structure could wait for the stucco crew to finish the waterproofing. The cost issue could be addressed as an option. I know that I would be willing to pay more for the SIPs if my framing crew will give me a break for not having to apply house wrap. As for the factory, I am not sure that waiting to have the material dry is necessary. A little rubbed on the interior facing of the panel above in the stack wouldn't make much difference.

Perhaps the real idea is to sell the OSB company on application. At least on the 8 x 24 pieces it would make a good option.
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