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11/20/2008 3:20 PM  
There have been many options discussed in this forum including -

Wind / Rain Screen:
Stucco
Hardie Plank / Panel
Metal - Corrugated and other profiles
Clapboard
Wood Shingles
Vinyl
Board and Batten
Brick

Underlayment:
Tyvek
Felt

And Furring Strips / No Furring Strips

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11/20/2008 5:20 PM  
You forgot to mention brick. In essence any type of siding that can be used on a building can be used on a SIPS structure. Every type of finish siding has its own installation process, and that process doesn't vary that much when using SIPS. There are many variations for each type of siding, but the bottom line is: do what needs to be done to keep moisture away from your structure, and if it gets to the structure, give it a way out.

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11/21/2008 5:03 PM  
There are differences though compared to a standard stud install:

1) There are no wood or metal studs to nail or screw into.

2) The OSB layer is not easily replaceable, so water infiltration can cause problems than are very difficult to repair.

Because of these issues, I have found that preferred methods for most siding types over OSB SIPS include Tyvek and vertical furring strips.
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11/23/2008 8:25 AM  
I used vinyl and Nova Brick. Both worked great. If you are doing it yourself, these are bothe great options, the Nova Brick really cut the outside noise down a lot, but really keeps the wall hot till late in the night during the Summer.

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12/02/2008 10:52 AM  
We used lap siding cedar along with some board and batten for accented walls. No furring strips. We put Tyvek on first, then screwed everything into the SIP panels with Deckmate screws of the appropriate color (designed for use with synthetic decks, they will not deteriorate). We caulked all seams and around windows.





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12/22/2008 9:41 PM  
I found this new product that would work great for sip





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12/23/2008 7:52 AM  
Posted By sidingmaster on 12/22/2008 9:41 PM
I found this new product that would work great for sip
looks like steel strapping?


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12/25/2008 5:29 PM  
Chris,

I, also, wish that Sidingmaster would identify the product. 

It looks as if it has very regular spots with spacing about the same as the siding's width:  The spots might be attachment points.  If so, it might speed siding installation once it is up.  IF  that's what it is:

How does the time saved putting up the siding compare with the time needed to install the strips? And,
And how many different spacings are available?

Very respectfully,
Larry
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08/31/2009 4:07 PM  
Found this great photo on Flickr-

Hardi lap siding, variable width, over tyvek.

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08/31/2009 4:21 PM  
Posted By tlynch on 08/31/2009 4:07 PM
Found this great photo on Flickr-

Hardi lap siding, variable width, over tyvek.

photo

Its a joke, right?

Chris Kavala
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08/31/2009 4:29 PM  
I don't understand your comment - what about it do you find funny and why don't you take it seriously?
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08/31/2009 5:08 PM  

This picture is from one of the 100K house projects (Philadelphia). 

http://www.100khouse.com/

I thought these achieved LEED Platinum.  They list the lap siding as CertainTeed not Hardi.

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08/31/2009 5:19 PM  
You are correct, it is the one of the 100k house projects, I think it is their passive solar house.


passive house


And you are also correct, it is certainteed, I had read this: hardi , but it must be out of date.


Here is another house they finished:


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08/31/2009 5:54 PM  
Posted By tlynch on 08/31/2009 4:29 PM
I don't understand your comment - what about it do you find funny and why don't you take it seriously?
Its not the variable width ...............its the crooked lines, its the no corner posts to close in the corners, its the no trim around the recessed widows? and the contiuous butt joint to the left of the no trespassing sign.
The tyvek looks good though , except for the big hole


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09/03/2009 1:11 PM  


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That pixel siding look is interesting. Do you know how they finished the vertical seams? Hardi-panel installation instructions call for battens, caulk, or H-channel on the vertical seams and Z-furring at the horizontal seams. (I gather this is Certainteed and not Hardi, but installation is bound to be similar right?)

But they seem to have achieved a rather clean look, but the photo *is* taken from far away.
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09/04/2009 5:36 AM  
Jelly;

not sure what they are using you could obtain  a similar look with a hidden fastener  metal building panel, if you want the varrigated look, you could use 2 different shades.
You may find a company that has "seconds" available

Chris Kavala
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