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Last Post 27 May 2008 09:47 AM by Brock. 4 Replies.
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Brock
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| 23 May 2008 10:12 AM |
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I am looking for a circulation pump (or three). We use geothermal to heat out 16k gallon indoor pool. I have two additional two inch lines from the pool entering and exiting the utility area, also where all the basement and main floor tubing’s shows up. My plan is to pump pool water through the tubes. Is there any specific pumps I should be looking at? It would be nice to have one that could prime itself to 2 feet, but I can prime it a different way if I need to.
And yes it does work I used a "pond" pump (2 gpm) and it brought the basement floor from 56F to 75F in 36 hours using only one of the four tubes, the pool is kept at 88F. I would just like to plumb this all in and use the right sort of pump. I was thinking the basement as one zone (four 250's runs), the main floor has two zones (four 250's) and bathrooms (two 250's). |
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| Green Bay, WI. - 4 ton horizontal goethermal, 16k gallon indoor pool, 3kw solar PV setup, 2 ton air to air HP, 3400 sq ft |
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BillN
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| 24 May 2008 10:11 AM |
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pumps are sized on pressure drop and flow rate. The flow rate that you can get through the tubes depends on their size. The pressure drop of the tube depends on its length (and size also). It looks like you have 10 tubes in parallel.
Other issues that you might want to consider. You cannot use an iron pump or any iron fittings because the pool water has oxygen in it which will corrode the iron in a short time. You need to stick with stainless or plastic. Bronze might work also. The other thing that I am thinking is that chlorene is not compatable with PEX tubing, or at least not in pool concentrations. Maybe someone else can verify that. In that case you will need a heat exchanger to transfer the heat from the pool water to the radiant loop. |
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Brock
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| 25 May 2008 02:22 AM |
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Thanks, the chlorine in the pool is typically below 2 ppm, usually about 1 ppm. I did get the oxygen barrier pex, not sure if that matter or not, but I was told it was a better one to get. Very true about not using an iron pump, plastic sounds like the way to go. I had heard elsid? makes a good circulation pump?
So if I want to run on three pumps that would be a max of four 250 foot runs in parallel on 1/2 pex, ball park what size should I be looking at? I guess the nice thing is if it is to slow it won’t hurt anything, just not heat the floor as much? |
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| Green Bay, WI. - 4 ton horizontal goethermal, 16k gallon indoor pool, 3kw solar PV setup, 2 ton air to air HP, 3400 sq ft |
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NRT.Rob
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| 25 May 2008 10:52 PM |
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you do not want to allow hair or whatever else might get into the pool to compromise your heating system, especially not tied to a geothermal system. maybe i don't understand your plan but if it involves the same water going from pool to the geo unit, I think it's a bad one.
we always use a pool heat exchanger. letting the pool use its own pool pump.
on the radiant side it's unlikely you need more than one typical 1/25th HP circulator for 10 loops, assuming you have some method of balancing flow or they are all plumbed reverse return to a central manifold. |
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Brock
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| 27 May 2008 09:47 AM |
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Nope, no direct exchange between the geo and the pool. There is an exchanger on the geo to the pool circulation lines and then I would just be taking water out of the pool (not through the heating / circulation / filtering lines) and pumping it through the pex and dump it back in the pool. Good idea about a pre filter though, it would be easy to add and better safe then sorry.
Any brands people tend to prefer? |
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| Green Bay, WI. - 4 ton horizontal goethermal, 16k gallon indoor pool, 3kw solar PV setup, 2 ton air to air HP, 3400 sq ft |
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