Amish House radiant baseboards
Last Post 30 Aug 2012 02:19 PM by BadgerBoilerMN. 2 Replies.
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27 Aug 2012 03:27 PM
Hey all,

Quick question, I'm thinking of buying an Amish built house that has a wood stove as the sole source.  Loan requirements and such require to have a backup heat source, capable of keeping the plumbed areas at 50 degrees.  There is already an on demand proprane tankless hotwater heater in the basement.  Could I just tap into that with some strategically placed radient  baseboard heaters that are fed through PEX from the hot water heater.  I know there is more involved than that, but would the water hear ba able to support that.  I'm talking maybe 3 or 4 of the 4 ft heaters.

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27 Aug 2012 04:12 PM
You could go with hydronic baseboard off your tankless, but you need enough of it to keep it from short-cycling the tankless like crazy on heating calls, and 12-16' probably isn't going to cut it. (The cost/BTU is pretty substantial with propane as a source fuel too.)

The min-output of most LP tankless is ~12-15,000BTU/hr, which would require the radiation to deliver about 1000BTU/foot at domestic hot water temps. Typical baseboard radiators rated at ~600BTU/ft @180F would require something like 220F (or higher) water to deliver that much heat in so short a section! With 120F water out of the tankless you'd need on the order 75' of baseboard to balance at the min-fire output of the tankless. If the min-mod of yours is under 10K you might be able to get away with 50'.

If you cheap out with 75' of fin tube you're still talking about a grand just in baseboard, add it all up with pumps and heat exchangers, expansion tanks, etc it turns into a real project with real expenses. You may get more bang/buck out of a ductless air source heat pump, which would also give you high-efficiency air conditioning, and a much lower per-BTU cost on the heating end.

Ductless heat pumps "play nice" with wood stoves, since they're fully modulating, and you can "set & forget" the temperature. Whenever the wood stove is keeping the temp above the setpoint of the ductless it's just standing-by, but when the room drops even a half-degree below the setpoint it'll start up at it's minimum compressor and blower speeds.

Is there any insulation in this place? Any flashing on the windows & doors (which would be necessary before blowing it full of cellulose or something)?
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30 Aug 2012 02:19 PM
When we have to use a tank-less "water heater" for space heating (not recommended) we use a fan coil more than not, figuring if people cared about comfort or economy they would have bought a proper heat source up front.
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