Payback?
Last Post 30 Apr 2008 09:21 AM by TechGromit. 3 Replies.
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24 Apr 2008 06:52 PM

As I stated in my last post (my first) I am new to this geothermal thing. 

I can not figure out how payback is calculated.  It seems that payback is calculated differently depending on what you read.  How can a 20k investment be paid back in 4 to 5 years if your are only saving 1k a year?

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24 Apr 2008 08:53 PM
It really comes down to your individual situation. The money saved with a geo system is a factor of relative fuel costs, system efficiencies, and the amount of heating and/or cooling energy your house consumes in a year. Annual savings can range from next to nothing when compared to a good air-source heat pump in a temperate climate to several thousand dollars a year in high heating or cooling load climates. There are several good web sites that will let you calculate the savings with decent accuracy, I don't have my bookmarks handy but will post when I locate them.

Also, if you let us know your approximate location, current heating/cooling system, and approximate annual operating cost, I or one of the other folks here could give you a quick guesstimate of how much you could save with a GSHP.

Payback can be simple or complicated depending on how you think. Simple payback is just install cost divided by annual savings. A more proper way would be to factor in the cost of capital or opportunity cost (Not sure if these are the right terms, I'm not a money guy), in other words if you invested that $20k, how much would you make on it vs the savings form a heat pump.

New construction or replacement of a failing existing system will also help the payback time. I had a 50 year old boiler that needed to be replaced at a cost of $8500. As my geo system was about $15K, the additional cost was only $6500, so my payback will be a little over 2 years (I think my case is pretty extreme in that regard). If you have a relatively new HVAC system that has years of life left in it, the whole cost of the Geo system must be included, so the payback won't be as good.
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29 Apr 2008 12:24 PM
If a air to air heat pump was going to cost 10,000 and a geo is estimated at 20,000 then the extra 10,000 is spread out over the savings of using the geo-thermal vs. alternative unit. If geo can save 100 a month over the other unit (yearly average), 1200 a year gives you 8 year pay back. The life expectancy of the geo is most likely 20+ years and the other is ???
Bob Gieser<br>Sales and Technical Support<br>Holdfast Technologies<br>Master Distributor for Nudura ICFs<br>(916) 214-4398-cell
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30 Apr 2008 09:21 AM
This Link provides a useful resource to compare the saving over one method of heating over another.
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