joe.ami
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| 26 Oct 2010 09:19 AM |
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I've had a conversation with a few folks about municipal geo wells.
Boise of course has used hot springs for more than 100 years for heating area buildings, but a subarb of Detroit wants to take this a step farther.
****please find link on Dewaynes post below**** |
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Joe Hardin
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geome
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| 26 Oct 2010 09:30 AM |
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Having trouble opening the link... |
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| Homeowner with WF Envision NDV038 (packaged) & NDZ026 (split), one 3000' 4 pipe closed horizontal ground loop, Prestige thermostats, desuperheaters, 85 gal. Marathon. |
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engineer
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| 26 Oct 2010 08:09 PM |
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whole lotta empty white screen for me, too. |
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joe.ami
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| 26 Oct 2010 09:33 PM |
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sry guys-not very computer savvy (just a mechanic).
I'll email it to you curt, and perhaps you can help.
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Joe Hardin
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Hitch
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| 26 Oct 2010 09:42 PM |
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Maybe this link?
http://tinyurl.com/24y2g93 |
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Masoud
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| 26 Oct 2010 11:03 PM |
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Copy and past: http://www.thenewsherald.com/articles/2010/06/26/news/doc4c2556beaa5ea074272963.txt
Consumers Energy -not our electric company in Michigan, but an electric co-op in Iowa, offers something similar. Co-op owns the geo fields. Members pay a monthly usage fee.
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Palace Geothermal
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| 26 Oct 2010 11:17 PM |
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Dewayne Dean
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joe.ami
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| 27 Oct 2010 08:27 AM |
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Thanks Dewayne.
I asked a prospective client to find out what tap in fees would be. If they are no charge that's one thing, but if they are more than a thousand or 2...... Numbers are about right ($12,000 for install+electrical, $8,000 for drilling) as most houses are easily under 2000 SF in this town and many under 1500.
If a $3,000 tap fee is required then suddenly you aren't saving much and you have to pay forever to use the loops.
The driller quoted is another that we have been watching. I can't call snake oil yet, but the owner (who coincidently has the same name as my father) has "a way to get more btu's out of less pipe in the ground".
One proposed method is a "ground utility r????? l????" (gurl) "that has some legal and enviromental issues".
A fellow suggested to me before using municipal water in a closed loop system (say in a co op or indian reservation)
this sounds a little like that and a lot unlikely for approval.
Wyandotte has natural gas available and no electric heating discount. It is a municipal owned electric company however and the gas company is not...........hmmm.
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docjenser
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| 27 Oct 2010 10:20 AM |
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Posted By joe.ami on 27 Oct 2010 08:27 AM
... then suddenly you aren't saving much and you have to pay forever to use the loops.
Isn't that what a utility is all about? Coming up with the upfront cash to install the infrastructure, and then charge the customer forever. Same with your cable company. Or your water authority....
People who do the math just put everything in their mortgage and pay for everything upfront, and enjoy the long term savings. But as we all know, not many customers do. |
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