air exchanger frost
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09 Feb 2010 01:51 PM
I've got a problem with frost building up outside the intake duct for the exchanger. It is insulated and still sweats. I will be covering the walls with drywall and need to remedy this issue. Is this caused by to long of an exchange? What to do? Thanks!
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09 Feb 2010 02:23 PM
So you mean the duct running from the outside intake to the exchanger inside the house right?

I had this issue in our last house. I ended up going with a higher R value (R8 I believe) flex duct on this house and haven’t had an issue yet. I think the "stock" insulated flex duct is R4? and then you get condensation inside it and it get the insulation wet and the situation gets worse. I wish they made a R16 or more flex duct to avoid this, but I would be curious how others have handled it. I did notice on our tour of homes last winter that almost every house with an HRV or even the fresh air in had a sagging intake line, the ones I could feel certainly had condensation and ice in-between the outer shell and flex duct where the insulation was. I asked about it in two of the homes and they said that was normal, in once case they had a regular metal duct obviously not insulated and was covered in ice, I just shook my head and walked out...
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09 Feb 2010 02:41 PM
Yes ,the fresh air duct. The intake is a solid 6''duct with added exterior foil face insulation.
So what your saying is ad higher r-vallue to the duct insulation and problem solved?
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10 Feb 2010 03:03 PM
Higher R value will indeed fix the problem, but it needs to be well air-sealed to keep humid room air from infiltrating in and coming in contact with cooler layers of the insulation. In a framing cavity this can often be pretty easy to do using rigid duct (with seams mastic-sealed) and blown insulation. Flex duct can be a pain to add air-tight insulation to.

R4 duct insulation may be OK for heating & AC ducts running within conditioned space, but it's woefully inadequate for ventilation air intakes. (Or even combustion air intakes for direct-vented appliances in cold/very-cold climates.)
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