Wood Continued Quality Reduction Provides Avenue for Alternative Technologies
Last Post 27 Jan 2012 07:41 AM by cmkavala. 4 Replies.
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20 Jan 2012 10:00 AM
http://www.builderonline.com/lumber...-2x4s.aspx

Those of you who have been in construction know that wood isn't what it used to be.   Tommorows wood is going to be of less quality still as our forests get younger.   If better builders continue to buy quality lumber --  alternative technologies such as ICF and SIPs will continue to gain market share.   Regards.
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20 Jan 2012 11:55 AM
Good, but it shouldn't take diminishing quality of lumber.
Brad Kvanbek - ICFconstruction.net
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25 Jan 2012 08:53 AM
I think you guys "hope" too much that something will happen to traditional building so your system will gain market share, poor approach in my opinion. You didn't even get the article right, it's not a quality reduction, rather a design value reduction. Posting like this is politicalesque, makes you seem like a huckster waiting in the wings to push crap.

The only thing it will really affect is engineered components which I'm sure you rely on as well, so I got bad news for you, your prices are going up and even more out of reach.

Lumber isn't as bad as you hope, last house we had maybe 10 unusuable studs that we couldn't do anything with, that's out of 500+ studs, one delivery, and those get sent back for a full refund, I guess you get sent those.

We cull wall studs within 1/4" crown, most are less than that, studs over that go into a pile to get chopped up. This has been the case for awhile now, in fact I think the bunks we get are getting better. Iin all honestly the only time I've seen severe problems on the level your hoping for is when the walls were built with 10' lumber. That length for whatever reason has tremendous problems so maybe you should hope for a mandate requiring walls to be built with 10' material.

Get it right next time.
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25 Jan 2012 09:09 AM
greentree, I'm not hoping that the quality of lumber will go down. When using ICF you still use about 75% of the lumber package for internal walls and roof and bracing and etc. I can tell you though, regardless of what builderonline says that it's harder to find good wood at the yard(s) and we send a lot more back than we used to. Regards.
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27 Jan 2012 07:41 AM
Posted By TexasICF on 25 Jan 2012 09:09 AM
greentree, I'm not hoping that the quality of lumber will go down. When using ICF you still use about 75% of the lumber package for internal walls and roof and bracing and etc. I can tell you though, regardless of what builderonline says that it's harder to find good wood at the yard(s) and we send a lot more back than we used to. Regards.



Use steel studs, they have 30% recycled content
Chris Kavala<br>[email protected]<br>1-877-321-SIPS<br />
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