Include unvented attic & crawl in HVAC load calc?
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07 Oct 2012 07:34 PM
I have conflicting information to sift through - please help me out with this -

I have one insulator that wants to spray foam my house and recommends we include the unvented attic and basement since it will be part of the thermal envelope.

I have another that suggests we size it to the living space and not include it in the calculated load - the sizing is signifigant and I dont know who to believe - please help!

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16 Oct 2012 10:53 AM
Unless you insulate between the living space & basement/attic (not necessarily recommended) you have to count them as conditioned space, even if it's not a finished space.

But the difference in the total heat load counting the attic will be pretty small compared to the total heat load.

The difference in the basement can be pretty high unless the basement walls/rim joist/foundation sill are all insulated and air sealed (highly recommended.)

Air sealing the attic and foundation by insulating with spray foam takes a HUGE cut out of the infiltration losses. Whether all of the insulation is in the form of spray foam doesn't matter, but retrofit air-sealing with foam is usually easier and more reliable than other methods. In the basement/band joist/foundation sill 1-2" of closed cell foam is recommended, and you can fatten out the R with fiber as-desired. In the attic it depends a bit on your climate. Going more than 2" with closed cell on any part of the house usually has a higher long term greenhouse gas potential (due to the HFC245fa blowing agent) than the energy use it offsets, but that won't meet code min in most areas by itself. Most open cell foam uses water as the blowing agent and doesn't have that issue, but is usually more expensive than cellulose or high-density fiberglass, etc.
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16 Oct 2012 01:27 PM
Adjacent unconditioned spaces are part of a homes load. Period.
Whether they are substantial depends on a lot of different factors-
i.e. cooling dominated areas do not suffer much heat gain through an unconditioned crawl......
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