Water Heater Replacement
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01 Apr 2013 10:16 AM
I have recently been told that my water heater is about to go out, and I should consider replacing it. There are so many different kinds on the marketing that its difficult to decide which to go with. Does anyone know a lot about the differences between storage water heaters and direct heating water heaters?
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01 Apr 2013 10:33 AM
What have you found out about the differences so far?
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02 Apr 2013 01:54 AM
What kind of water heater do you have now? What is your location? What are your electric and gas rates? How many occupants in the house?
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02 Apr 2013 06:16 AM
If the heater is in an unfinished basement or attached garage, and you don't have natural gas, a heat pump water heater (HPWH) is an excellent option. For a small family, 2-3 adults/teens the 50 gal Geospring is plenty, for 4-5, look at the 80 gallon versions. THey cost about $1000 more than quality electric (and even less with common rebates), but save $200-300 per year relative to electric.
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02 Apr 2013 06:28 AM
I've been looking at heat pump water heaters, but the reliability reports are horrible, at least on the affordable ones. I almost bought a Rheem that was half price, until I looked up reviews on it. How does the Geospring hold up?
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02 Apr 2013 02:53 PM
IMO, nat gas (tank and tankless) and heat pump are the three best options to look at.
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03 Apr 2013 10:43 AM
The simple solution is to just measure the height and know the gallons of your existing tank, and then pay Home Depot or Lowes a visit and get the equivalent (gas or electric) tank replacement for about $300. If you want to do more to save energy, then you need to research whether tankless might be a better solution. Then research heat pump, etc.
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03 Apr 2013 07:14 PM
As for HPWH reliability....refrigerators last a long time, so why shouldn't HPWHs? That said, clearly some vendors had some production problems early on. Many now provide a good warranty to allay concerns.

I have an AO smith with a 10 year warranty, parts on the compressor, total replacement on the tank. <1 year in.
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04 Apr 2013 10:46 AM
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04 Apr 2013 03:58 PM
I've missed much of the hot water debate, but I do have some input. I've seen articles that state keeping standing hot water consumes 15% of the total energy bill. I first saw an on demand system in India in 1996. When I asked how it worked the fellow popped off the cover to show me a tennis ball can sized tank and said just press the "ON" button and you have hot water as long as you need it. Fast forward to Thailand, the same systems are standard in homes, but not in hotels. Fast forward to my home I built in 2009 in Kentucky. I bought 3 heaters from the Marey company and placed them at sink points in the house including the shower. the water can be heated indefinitely so hot you cannot hold your hand under it. I built a very tight SIP house and decided against a gas fired heater because it depletes oxygen and produces carbon monoxide in the house. Excluding the 2 hot and 2 cold months, my energy bill is in the mid $30's per month for a 3,000 sq ft house.
I also have a Siemens clothes washer that makes its own hot water using the same technology.
I would never return to a 40 gallon hot water tank system because you do run out of hot water occasionally, and they are an unnecessary energy drain.
Hope this helps.
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05 Apr 2013 08:19 PM
Modern electric tanks have low standby (maybe 6% or DHW heating energy, 1-2% of domestic energy, not 15%). Gas fired heaters do a lot worse, due to heat loss through the flue. And oil boilers....a nightmare.
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