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26 Jul 2021 11:30 AM
Hey all, we're building a natural timber frame home and looking for a way to supply good drinking water.  We have a natural spring that we've been taking water from but we now have a pump installed and need to run about 300ft of line.  Any options out there that can supply this?  We looked at copper and are thinking about that inside a 2" conduit but we don't want this thing to corrode in five years.  Years ago we use to bury it and never had issues for 20 plus years.. is there anything like this?

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26 Jul 2021 01:12 PM
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26 Jul 2021 01:14 PM
use PEX....3/4 inch you should be able to get in long spools. Use the "Pinch" type crimps. It is the best in freezing temps also. Needs to be UV protected though, so bury it.
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26 Jul 2021 02:28 PM
We were looking at this stuff;

https://www.homedepot.com/p/Advanced-Drainage-Systems-1-in-x-200-ft-CTS-250-psi-NSF-Poly-Pipe-in-Blue-X4-1250200/205909047

Our pump house will be pushing 80PSi so we need the rating (250psi). The water pressure in the house will be 65 psi which is all copper. We cannot run copper in our soil because it's very high in iron. Copper will react and we estimate 5-10 years before a complete failure. So it looks like SCH9.
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27 Jul 2021 10:17 AM
I am not familiar with that stuff. What fittings would you use? Are the fittings going to hold?

Pex is a system of fittings and pipe rated at 160 @ 73 degrees. Not sure why you need 3 times the pressure rating?

Pex is the new standard for house water lines, it is quick and easy without issues and can be bought at most hardware's.

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27 Jul 2021 10:44 AM
The fittings would be a brass barbed fitting OR a pack joint fitting (brass). We have a one inch copper pipe that goes to a green house so I'm trying to figure out the best way to sustain the pressure if the wife takes a shower, has the dishwasher going and washing machine going all at the same time trying to run a hose etc. I'm not sure of the health side of PEX, I know it's for drinking water but why is some of this banned in AL, AK, AZ, AR, etc.

The spring can keep up, we built a 4,000 gallon holding tank which the spring fills up and the over flow can produce about 5 gallons every 48 seconds. Thanks all.
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27 Jul 2021 03:55 PM
I think PEX (type A) with ProPex expansion fittings is by far the best way to plumb a house these days. Don't use crimp fittings! PEX has been used in Europe for potable water since shortly after WW2. Same with ICF construction. PEX has passed all the US potable water safety standards and has been used here for at least 30 years. The reason it is still banned in some States is because the plumbing union lobbyists were able to accomplish that in those States. PEX plumbing lasts far longer than copper, it is way cheaper than copper, and it can be quickly installed for less labor cost than copper or even DIY installed.

Presumably you have your bladder tank that creates your house water pressure in your house or very close to your house. Otherwise, you will see significant pressure loss unless you use large diameter supply line. You don't need a 250 psi rating for domestic water system. 150 psi is way more than adequate.
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27 Jul 2021 10:38 PM
If you have a two inch sleeve, it would be easy enough to get PEX in, say 1 3/4" diameter and run it through the sleeve. That way if you get deposits or sediment build up over the years you still have plenty of open area. You can drop it to a more normal 1" once you get inside the house.  It would be nice to see if you can buy a roll that is long enough that you don't have any joints inside the sleeve. Joints are always where pipes fail first.

I was a little suspicious of plastic water pipe when I first met it, but it is code compliant, has been around a while, and if there was anything bad about it I figure we would know by now.
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02 Aug 2021 12:34 PM
Good information.
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