Please help me add insulation to this cathedral ceiling.
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25 Oct 2011 11:46 PM
This is in an older condo complex located in a ski resort. I have no way to add insulation on the roof. Could one add rigid Polyisocyanurate (ISO) panels on the inside. In between the exposed trusses. Is that realistic? I don't know how to attached them to the ceiling. Quite sure glue wouldn't be strong enough. Click to see ceiling: http://inc.mlxchange.com/INCimages/160/940192_G01_22.jpg Any suggestions?
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26 Oct 2011 09:49 AM
What is the spacing on those trusses? It looks like six feet or so. If you put foam in between, you'd have to cover it with drywall or something to meet the fire code. You'd lose the beauty of the timber trusses.

The best approach, as it sounds you know, would be exterior insulation. How long till a reroof is needed? That would be the time to do the project.
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26 Oct 2011 12:52 PM
I have no idea when will the next re-roof take place. The HOA probably won't let me add 6" of foam on it as it will alter the exterior appearance. Sigh.
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28 Oct 2011 01:22 PM
You can't used foil-faced iso over the interior t & g since that would trap moisture in the t & g, but you could use as much as 2" of unfaced XPS (R10), or 4" of EPS (R15) to get there. Alternatively you could use up to 2" of closed cell spray foam (R12). There's at least one higher-perm lower-R closed cell foam out there (Icynene MD-R-200) that you could safely install in depths of up to 6" (R30). At 6" the latter product has a permeance of ~ 0.6-0.7 perms, which is about where you are with only 2" of most closed cell foams, or 2" of XPS.

If you can find a sufficiently high-perm fiber faced iso roofing insulation you can go pretty deep with it, but most are using sub-1-perm facers, you can't layer it. If you keep it to at most 2 facers in the stackup most will be OK. It'll have a permeance of less than 0.5, but it won't be much more vapor-tight than kraft facers, and it's not air-permeable, properly sealed at the edges with 1-part expanding foam to avoid convection loops from depositing room moisture on the now-colder t & g you'll be OK. (This is a must for any rigid-foam solution.) At 4" iso delivers ~ R24, at 5" it would be about R30. (If there is no insulation currently on the exterior, derate that to R22.5/R28 for mid-winter.)

With any foam insulation the interior finish surface needs to be rated as an ignition barrier. (1x t & g would qualify in most species, if you want to preserve the look.) Purpose- made foam board adhesive (available at box-store home centers) works, but using 1x furring at the edges to hold it in place while the adhesive sets will likely be necessary. To mount the finish surface it needs to be mechanically secure- code doesn't allow you to just glue it to the foam, so using 1x furring through-screwed to the original t & g 24" o.c. would give you something to mount the interior finish surface/ignition-barrier on.
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