kavade
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| 19 Dec 2011 04:30 PM |
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I'm looking for a direct vent propane wall furnace, high efficiency, that does NOT have a blower, or has a blower that can be switched off. Is there such an animal? The ones I've seen all have automatic blowers that come on when you turn on the unit.
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Bigrig
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| 21 Dec 2011 10:17 AM |
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How much heating do you require? The Robur TS2000 requires no electricity (thus no fan). However at only 6000 BTU/h you will not be heating a 3000 square foor house with it. |
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Dana1
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| 21 Dec 2011 11:06 AM |
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High-efficiency==active blowers, as a rule. To get sufficient exhaust flow on a condensing (90%+) burner requires active venting through the fire side of the heat exchanger, and to keep the HX at condensing temps requires an active blower on the conditioned-space air side. It's tough to even get 85% without some draft assist. Without blowers ~70-75% efficiency would be more likely. It may be possible to do a convective loop radiation scheme with an atmospheric-drafted propane hot water heater that would deliver close to 80%, but it's unlikely you'd be able to deliver the full burner output into the conditioned space without a LOT of careful design (and big radiating surfaces.) Convective loops with a propane fired cast-iron boiler would be easier (bigger I/O plumbing), and you can probably hit the low-80s. But neither the HW heater nor boiler would be direct-vent. |
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kavade
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| 21 Dec 2011 04:06 PM |
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As my Dad used to say "I'm not made of money," so I guess I either put up with the blower on the DV high efficiency units I've seen (which really don't seem to be all that highly efficient), or I get the non blower units with standing pilot and no second burn.
Ouch. I hate waste, but the other options are too expensive.
Thanks for the replies, folks. |
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kavade
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| 21 Dec 2011 04:15 PM |
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Bigrig,
I just looked at Robur products, and the 17,700 BTU DV unit looks exactly like the WIlliams unit I asked the Williams company about. That unit has a blower that can't be turned off. The smaller unit you mention is too small for my needs. But thanks for the info. I didn;t know about Robur. I guess they sell to Williams??
I'm heating two floors, with a unit on each floor. About 750 SF each floor. |
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kavade
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| 07 Jan 2012 03:59 AM |
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Has anyone heard of, or had experience with, Eskabe wall furnaces? |
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WoodyH
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| 10 Jan 2012 11:37 PM |
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What sort of price range are you looking at for the furnace? The better gas furnace models are typically priced at premium.
Home Furnace Prices - Natural Gas |
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kavade
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| 15 Jan 2012 04:58 PM |
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I was thinking around $1000. I have two floors to heat (though practically speaking one wall furnace on the first floor is enough),and I want to put DV wall furnaces on each floor. I bought an Eskabe and will put it on the ground floor, and if it seems ok I will buy another, I guess, and put it on the second floor.
I had bought a Williams, but I had such a bad customer service experience with them that I canceled the order and will never use them again.
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