Dan Kegel
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| 26 May 2015 03:25 PM |
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Just spoke with a roofer. He said that polyiso was a pain to put on a roof because you need to put plywood over it.
Looking around a bit, I see that some vendors have a product which is polyiso bonded to plywood or OSB, called nailbase or nailable polyiso.
See http://c.ymcdn.com/sites/www.polyiso.org/resource/resmgr/technical_bulletins/tb106_jun30.pdf
I don't see it for sale anywhere, though. Has anyone used it? Is it cheaper than just separate plywood and polyiso? Where does one get it? |
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Bob I
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| 26 May 2015 03:50 PM |
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Nailbase is an alternative which we have used with good results. Works best if you do not want a vented area above the polyiso. It can be difficult sealing between the panels so be prepared to caulk or foam the joints, and use a good first quality tape like Siga or 3M 8067. Since you cannot seal it as easily as you can polyiso which is easy to tape, it's worth installing a good air barrier on the old roof deck - ether a peel & stick or a good taped fabric. You can order it from a commercial roofing supply company in the thickness you want, or from a SIPS panel company. |
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| Bob Irving<br>RH Irving Homebuilders<br>Certified Passive House Consultant |
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Alton
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| 26 May 2015 07:16 PM |
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Atlas makes insulation roof boards with venting:
http://www.atlasroofing.com/engineered-ventilation |
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Residential Designer & Construction Technology Consultant -- E-mail: Alton at Auburn dot Edu Use email format with @ and period . 334 826-3979 |
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Dan Kegel
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| 26 May 2015 11:21 PM |
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Thanks for the replies. I did find a directory that lists some local sources for several brands of nailable polyiso within 20 miles: http://www.buildsite.com/product/nailable-base-3 http://www.buildsite.com/product/energyguard-composite-board-insulation-gaf2 http://www.buildsite.com/product/acfoam-nail-base-insulation http://www.buildsite.com/product/nailboard etc. etc. In my case, this is above a well-vented attic, so air sealing the roof deck isn't important. I plan to put R30 on the attic floor, so all the polyiso would do is make the AC system's life easier; our ducts run through the attic. On hot days, our living area ceiling hits 95 degrees, and the outside shingles hit 177 degrees. (Dunno what the attic temperature is, I need to measure that.) Then again, we're going to use Energy Star shingles, maybe the ~50% increase in reflectivity vs. our current shingles will cool the attic enough. This has been hashed over elsewhere, see http://www.greenbuildingtalk.com/Forums/tabid/53/aff/14/aft/82842/afv/topic/afpgj/1/Default.aspx |
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jonr
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| 28 May 2015 07:46 AM |
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It's not clear to me why they can't nail shingles right through 1/2" polyiso foam. |
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Alton
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| 28 May 2015 12:07 PM |
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Jonr, I think they can but each fastener might be sunk to a different level. If so, then the finished roof might not look smooth. I say this because the foam will not resist the fastener as much as OSB would. |
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Dan Kegel
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| 28 May 2015 01:40 PM |
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Also, if you're mounting solar panels, maybe polyiso alone wouldn't support the rack as well? I don't know, I should ask. |
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