Nailbase polyiso?
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26 May 2015 03:25 PM
Just spoke with a roofer. He said that polyiso was a pain to put on a roof because you need to put plywood over it. Looking around a bit, I see that some vendors have a product which is polyiso bonded to plywood or OSB, called nailbase or nailable polyiso. See http://c.ymcdn.com/sites/www.polyiso.org/resource/resmgr/technical_bulletins/tb106_jun30.pdf I don't see it for sale anywhere, though. Has anyone used it? Is it cheaper than just separate plywood and polyiso? Where does one get it?
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26 May 2015 03:50 PM
Nailbase is an alternative which we have used with good results. Works best if you do not want a vented area above the polyiso. It can be difficult sealing between the panels so be prepared to caulk or foam the joints, and use a good first quality tape like Siga or 3M 8067. Since you cannot seal it as easily as you can polyiso which is easy to tape, it's worth installing a good air barrier on the old roof deck - ether a peel & stick or a good taped fabric.

You can order it from a commercial roofing supply company in the thickness you want, or from a SIPS panel company.
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26 May 2015 07:16 PM
Atlas makes insulation roof boards with venting: http://www.atlasroofing.com/engineered-ventilation
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26 May 2015 11:21 PM
Thanks for the replies. I did find a directory that lists some local sources for several brands of nailable polyiso within 20 miles:

http://www.buildsite.com/product/nailable-base-3
http://www.buildsite.com/product/energyguard-composite-board-insulation-gaf2
http://www.buildsite.com/product/acfoam-nail-base-insulation
http://www.buildsite.com/product/nailboard
etc. etc.

In my case, this is above a well-vented attic, so air sealing the roof deck isn't important.
I plan to put R30 on the attic floor, so all the polyiso would do is make the AC system's life easier; our ducts run through the attic.
On hot days, our living area ceiling hits 95 degrees, and the outside shingles hit 177 degrees.
(Dunno what the attic temperature is, I need to measure that.)
Then again, we're going to use Energy Star shingles, maybe the ~50% increase in reflectivity vs. our current shingles will cool the attic enough.

This has been hashed over elsewhere, see http://www.greenbuildingtalk.com/Forums/tabid/53/aff/14/aft/82842/afv/topic/afpgj/1/Default.aspx
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28 May 2015 07:46 AM
It's not clear to me why they can't nail shingles right through 1/2" polyiso foam.
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28 May 2015 12:07 PM
Jonr, I think they can but each fastener might be sunk to a different level. If so, then the finished roof might not look smooth. I say this because the foam will not resist the fastener as much as OSB would.
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28 May 2015 01:40 PM
Also, if you're mounting solar panels, maybe polyiso alone wouldn't support the rack as well? I don't know, I should ask.
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