Lintel design
Last Post 13 Feb 2007 04:24 PM by icfcontractor. 5 Replies.
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10 Feb 2007 07:51 PM
I realize the best person to ask would be a local engineer - but I thought I would put this out here anyway.

I've gone through the Prescriptive Methods, plus virtually every ICF manufacturer's manuals for lintel span tables.  I have no problem digesting this.

My question is: are these tables the same if you have 1 large window opening (say 6' span) with (2) 2.5' windows mulled together or if you have the same windows not mulled together, i.e. two separate 2.5' window bucks next to each other?  Does the center buck support shared by these windows make a difference for the open span of the lintel tables?

Sorry, I hope that made sense.
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10 Feb 2007 08:29 PM

Mat,

Your first instinct is correct; a local engineer will have the best answer for you for the specific jurisdiction that you are dealing with.  I personally build in the highest seismic zone and with my experience your answer would be, it depends.

What it depends on is, depth of the lintel, span of the lintel, the size, grade, and number of tension bars being used for your lintel, where you are building, and what you would use as a mullion.

By code where I build we have to put 2 #5 60 KSI bars extending past the opening 2 feet in all directions for shear and crack control.  This is in most cases enough rebar to span 10 to 12 feet with at least 10 inches of concrete for the lintel.  So it typically does not matter what my mullion material is.  If you are using steel as a mullion this would count for strengthening the lintel, even a good Doug Fir or Yellow Pine would give you decent compressive strength, but Hem Fir, Spruce, Cedar and the like would be suspect and need an engineer’s approval here.

Hope this helps

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11 Feb 2007 11:48 AM
I think an easier answer would be to treat the opening as one large rough opening, so that if any so-called center support was removed, there would not be any issues of possible failure. One reason I lean toward this approach is so inexperienced designers and installers do not interpret the smaller windows as side-by-side but separate, and then assume they are two small openings which in error could be construed as not requiring any rebar, because once again, in error, the opening(s) are defined incorrectly!
Take Care<br>Jim<br><br>Design/Build/Consulting<br>"Not So Big" Design Proponent
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11 Feb 2007 02:46 PM
Hi MatD:

In line with Jim's thinking, if the two windows are side by side and you do not have either intervening ICF wall, or an explicit structual support mullion, the lintel should be considered for the entire opening size. 

By the way, you also have to consider if there is any additional load, uniformly distributed or concentrated, above the window openings -- if there is then that also has to be taken into account in the design of the lintel.
Regards!<br>Yogi Anand, D.Eng, P.E.<br>Energy Efficient Building Network LLC<br>http://www.energyefficientbuild.com
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13 Feb 2007 08:05 AM
How is the area above garage door supported?  Seems like that would be larger than any window opening.
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13 Feb 2007 04:24 PM
tc-cad,

Concrete is a great building medium because you can span large openings with relative ease. Most manufacturers have lintel tables that will go out to 16 to 20 feet. The IRC I believe goes out to a similar distance but I don't have it in front of me. Of course all of this depends on everything that has been mentioned above especially the loads being carried above the lintel. You may have to add stirups and have large rebar in the bottom but your typical garage door lintel is fairly straight forward to easy to install.

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