ICF Comparison
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30 Aug 2007 02:35 AM
Just starting out, and there are lots of different blocks out there.  Wanted to get a comparison of which ICF manufacturer you chose and why?  Seems like all that I see around here is Logix.
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30 Aug 2007 07:30 AM
First and foremost criteria to pick a block should be local support. Unless you are looking at becoming a distributor, support and guidance will be highly important during your build. Some are easier to put up than others, some have more accessories than others but the end result with most blocks is the same.
Thanks,<br>Tom<br>www.advbuildingtech.com
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30 Aug 2007 12:16 PM
What makes some blocks easier to use than others?
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30 Aug 2007 11:36 PM
There are allot of things that make the differences in ICF's. Reversibility, tie spacing, interlock repeat, corner length, ease of stacking, but foremost the representation of that company in your area. I just trained a crew a few weeks back that had stacked and poured 12 projects in 06' that threw away there certified training cards from there previous manufacture after I spent one hour with this crew. They learned in there previous class many faults like cutting there forms at a corner instead of a door or window that was 10' ft away. This was causing 8-9 cuts instead of 4, and was placing the cuts at a vulnerable location which then required tape and zip ties. Unfortunately, ICF's are very regional and sometimes the best forms are not represented in your area.

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31 Aug 2007 12:21 AM
Thanks for the input. Sounds like the training and support is more important than the product, which is unfortunate. The 3 I have been looking at are Logix, Nudura, and Amvic. Besides the support issue, is there one block that stands out more than the other? I think I would rather travel to get better training, and use a better product than settle for a secondary product.
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31 Aug 2007 08:28 AM
HP, you probably see a lot of Logix installs around you because of the local rep's ability to train and provide service. That speaks well to the local operation.

Walltech's & Icfblocks advice is sound, and in addition I would add that it would be in your best interest to work with several experienced crews with different blocks, so that you can weigh for yourself the advantages of individual systems.

You will learn a lot more hands on , than you will here, for the simple reason none of us has any interest in slagging product in a public forum.
Your willingness to travel is good. Do it.



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31 Aug 2007 10:34 AM
Logix, Nudura, Amvic are all excellent blocks. Some have more specific applications. Nudura, for instance, likes long wall spaces (the blocks are large). However, some don't like the metal hinges that makes an occasional cut more difficult. Amvic is very strong with 6" ties. Logix, as I recall, is one the thickest with 2.75" vs 2.5" of EPS compared to the others. Local support, price comes into play. I don't think these are bad choices.
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31 Aug 2007 12:57 PM
I have learned alot from this forum, but need to get my hands dirty! Anyone know of any installers in the Pacific Northwest willing to work with a beginner?
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31 Aug 2007 06:40 PM
Have any projects in Minnesota? What are those connectors between the EPS panels made of? Any thermal bridging? Are they glued to the panels w/ PUR? What thickness EPS panels do you have available? Are the panels able to be trimmed on site if there are adjustments? How does this compare to ICF in a typical build?

thanks.
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