Electric Service Panel
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08 Nov 2010 11:41 AM
Do any of you ICF pro's and homeowners have any pics of the electrical service panel in an ICF home?  I'm looking for options on how to best mount and dress the cables to end up with an attractive installation. 
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08 Nov 2010 02:28 PM
In my ICF home the panel is in the garage. I ran a 1/2 aspenite from top to bottom of the wall and main breaker in panel is eye sight. All wires are coming from attic running down the aspenite to panel. Built a box over to hide eveything. No pics ,sorry!
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08 Nov 2010 02:40 PM
I'm trying to determine if it makes sense to go the same route (boxing in the panel and romex) or just run a fat piece of pvc from the top of the box up to the attic and surface mounting the panel on a piece of plywood.

My panel is also going to be in the garage. The pics in the Amvic manual show an installation where they use bucks to flush mount the box. To me it looks uglier going that route...

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08 Nov 2010 02:55 PM
Regarding your pvc, there are a LOT of wires running down my wall. That being said, you might need a few pieces of 'fat' pvc. Codes usually prevents you to put more than x# of wires in a conduit in accordance with size. Around twenty wires are coming down from the attic and six from the basement .The idea with the aspenite/plywood is to tack the wires neetly down to the panel. The pvc idea is not a bad one but check with local elec. codes for what you could pass through let's say 3'' conduit?
I think flush mount would mean conduit embeded in concrete to panel! Having trouble seeing how the wires will enter the panel with ease!
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08 Nov 2010 04:03 PM
Here's a pic of what mine looks like today. I fastened 2 x 4s on edge to the wall using 3/8" bolts and Red Head drop-in anchors, I put in a few 1 x 4s to staple the cables to. The panel is mounted in between the 2 x 4s just as it would be in a frame wall. Dry walled over the whole thing as you can see. I ran two or three lines horizontally out from the wire chase by going under the 2 x 4 and in the foam to the outlet boxes. Your conduit idea has problems. One, as has been mentioned, the code restricts how many cables you can put into the conduit because of heating issues. You would have to use two or more conduits. Getting them into the top of the box is a hassle as the prepunched holes won't be big enough. And, you can't run lines out horizontally like you can out of a chase. I also ran a few lines downward and along a chase at the floor to where I could then run them into the crawl space of the house. I've got about 20+ cables going up and 5 to 10 going down.

Even a retired engineer can build a house successfully w/ GBT help!
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08 Nov 2010 04:11 PM
Thanks for the pic, that's exactly what I was trying to explain.
Nice & tidy.
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08 Nov 2010 04:43 PM
Excellent pic, that really finishes up nicely. I think I could find it in the dark.
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10 Nov 2010 12:57 PM
I know I am new to the forum but I have been reading for months.

I ran a residential electrical construction company in FL. Have overseen hundreds of houses.
All of the houses were block construction. The panels were placed on block in the Garage.
We had a tin knocker that made Panel skirts for us. We then tapconed them to the block.
The panel skirt was painted to match the color of the wall. It went from the Top of the panel to the ceiling, it allowed the homeruns to come into the top of the panel and allowed for easy access if necessary. Good design, cheap, and functional.
No fishing wires from the top, just pop the cover off and you have complete access.

Just another option.

Garrett



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10 Nov 2010 01:33 PM
Posted By levigarrett93 on 10 Nov 2010 12:57 PM
We had a tin knocker that made Panel skirts for us. We then tapconed them to the block.
The panel skirt was painted to match the color of the wall. It went from the Top of the panel to the ceiling, it allowed the homeruns to come into the top of the panel and allowed for easy access if necessary. Good design, cheap, and functional.


Probably not much different in cost, maybe a little more, than the 2 x 4 and drywall method I used. Would be particularly a good way to go w/ block if the block isn't being covered over by drywall. The drywall chase provides repairable access, i.e., if you have to get in there just cut a hole or two and then repair after. Not as easy as the sheet metal cover, but then again, how often is one going to need to get in there?

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10 Nov 2010 01:51 PM
Agreed.

The skirts were the width of the panel by around 2-3' tall I think they ran about $35-40.
Gotta say this is great forum.

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