Patching vertical ICF walls
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15 Aug 2011 08:06 AM
http://www.boschtools.com/ABOUTBOSCHTOOLS/PRESSROOM/Pages/rebarcutter.aspx

Here's the bit I was referring to from Bosch, Hilti also makes one but I could not locate it on their site

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15 Aug 2011 08:48 AM
They"re called carbide coring bits!!
Foam and an ICF "peel and stick" products work fine to answer your original question.
Just make sure you clean and/or rasp the area well enough so it can stick. A glue is also available so that all possibilities of water intrusion is eliminated. (soprema, blue skin)
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15 Aug 2011 10:32 AM
Yeah, time was short as we are trying to pour slabs over, So I foamed the holes and patched with peel and stick. Water is not really an issue there. Even though it is a bit below grade, those sections are so well drained and protected from moisture I will be surprised if we excavate in 50 years and find anything wetter than dust (and maybe a crumpled can of RockStar or energy bar wrapper).

If I have to do it again, I will use non-shrink grout (one version I found said it could be mixed to the consistency of Play-Doh) tamped into the hole with an appropriately sized ramrod, followed up with foam and membrane.

I see no need to core for the smaller holes. I will continue to use a hammer bit on those. The steel is there for a reason and cutting through it willy-nilly in those areas just defeats the engineering that placed it to begin with.
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16 Aug 2011 06:16 PM
I'm used to seeing what Chris described. Mostly, I'm on larger projects, and they use core bits through concrete rather than drill.
Fiber board EJ should be outlawed. In slabs, I use the self-levelling joint sealer they sell at Home Depot (my home away from home). I think it's a Sika product, which is one of the top brands.
In vertical applications, Sika and MB (BASF or whatever they are now) make some, but I don't have a name just now. Email me if you want more info. Many caulks will leak over time.
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17 Aug 2011 12:10 AM
The self-leveling caulks are way too runny to patch a hole in a wall, or even to seal a through hole once it is filled with pipe or conduit. It just runs out.
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17 Aug 2011 09:00 AM
Right, hence the differentiation. Self-leveling products are meant to flow through small cracks. Most non-sag polyurethane products will work well. Sika makes a good sealant, Sikaflex 11 FC, which is for vertical application. Also, Grainger carries a good GE product, and Sonoflex NP-1 is a long-term sealant which I think is non-sag.
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18 Aug 2011 12:00 AM
That's why I prefer to oversize the hole and leave enough space to pack grout so I am more comfortable with it actually getting into the concrete and creating a proper seal.

If you use caulking products you with have to remove more foam to ensure the caulk is actually at the concrete and sealing it.
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