Pretty soon I'll be at the point of parging between the below grade waterproof platon (dimple sheet) and the stone veneer.  The stone veneer is suppose to be 4" above fill and 2" above concrete.  I might have about 12" between the top of the platon and the bottom of the stone veneer.  I do have a few rolls of the peel-n-stick membrane, which I plan to place above the platon and extend above grade and maybe a few inches above the where the stone veneer begins. 

I know that the peel-n-stick membrane shouldn't be exposed to UV for an extended length of time, so there needs to be some type of parge over the membrane.  What are my options?  I know there are coatings that can be sprayed or troweled on.  Have you guys had any good experiences with any particular type?

I was also contemplating PVC Trim.  Since I only need to bridge that gap between the earth and the stone, couldn't I just use a lenghs of 3/4" x 6" PVC?  Scarf cut and glue the ends together?  Has anyone done this before and can you guys see any reason why this wouldn't work?

Thanks in advance!

Sean

I used Sakrete One Coat Fibered Stucco direct to roughened foam and it worked well.

You can not parge onto peel-and-stick it will not adhere properly if at all.
I have recently done this also. I personally went with a acrilic stucco.
Sanded clean, base coat with fiber mesh, then color coat once base was dry.
No screws, no tapcons, no metal mesh. So eliminated pretty much all elements that could cause headachs.
Took 2 days for around 300'+ of 2'6'' tall and all was finished. Came in cheaper than conventional parging and in my humble opinion have a much better product.
BTW: Acrylic is not in my field and was a breeze to install.

Your post is a bit confusing! If I understood correctly, your membrane is to low as to what backfill height you'd now like to have?

Thanks for the responses and sorry if my post was confusing. Thagreen - I have 7'6" platon on my walls right now, and I'd like to go another 6-10" higher. No big deal if I cannot do it. I'm concerned with protecting my walls above the platon from critters and also from moisture intrusion. I've been reading about some acylic coatings, but many of them state that they're not for below grade. What brand do you use?

Jonr - can that Sakrete be used below grade? I couldn't find any info on their website. The picture shows someone troweling it on like Dryvit and leaving the 2" gap above the grade.

I don't know, although since it is just concrete and fiber, seems like it would be fine. Mine gets wet and freezes all the time and it hasn't damaged it.

We generally run the peel and stick up to grade +/- 2" of 'expected' final grade, Delta MS or Platon in your case within 6". We parge top of wall to a couple inches on the peel and stick and don't have issues, same as thagreen

Jeepster, another possibility is Hardipanel. Some ICF builder in Montana, whose name I don't recall, told me in a phone conversation he uses Hardiplank or Hardipanel between the siding and grade. James Hardi specifically states their products are not to come into ground contact, and if it does it won't be warranted, but the contractor said the stuff holds up quite well, is fairly easy to install, and looks good. The benefits outweigh the lack of warranty and endorsement of Hardi.

I would expect that portion of the Hardi that is contact with the ground, particularly if the ground is damp from rain or irrigation, may not withstand contact abuse very well. But in any case it might work pretty good. Worth thinking about anyway, I think.

Name on the gallons were " STEF" but not convinced that's company name.
I'll have to look closer. My lead man on this said there was no problem backfilling a portion.
There will be flower beds in some areas and I was going to add membrane up to bed level.
When I mentioned this I was told " not necessary".

I will be testing out the "BTS Plus" product by Sto this weekend. If it is not too hot.

The person who recommended it said it was ideal to cover both the EPS and peel-and stick membrane at ground level.

We will see.

Took a while but had a closer look at the gallons and it is "Stef coatings".
Forgot to mention, I used a trasition barrier from eps to peel & stick called "resisto stt".
Has the same properties as the peel & stick so it can stick and on the surface is the velcro like material
although very thight( not the adhering side of the velcro). Sorry for the description it's the best I can do.

Product is 4" wide and comes in rolls. I would defenetly use it again, had to cut the pl&st at a few place since it curled up. The trasition really sealed it back up and could follow the cuts very well with a prpoer overlap.

Do you have a link for the transition stuff you are using?

I googled it and found this:

http://www.resisto.ca/membrane-waterproofing/RESISTO/Foundations.aspx

The problem with a bunch of these web pages is that they don't list distributors and they are mostly located in Canada. Most of the acrylic stucco that I've looked at states not for below grade use. I don't know if the main concern is with EIFS systems where if it were installed below grade and moisture got threw, it could wick up into the sheathing.

Thanks for the info so far. I'll figure something out. I know Nudura and others recommend prep coat 2000, but once again, I'm having a hard time finding a distributor and their webpage doesn't list distributors.

Where did you buy your Nudura from? That distributor can get you the B2000. If not look up Durock Alfacing in Woodbridge, ON they can steer you to a US distributor of their products.

I was hoping to find a distributor closer by. My Nudura Dist is in Ohio and I'm in Illinois, not too far from St. Louis. I'll drop them an email and see if they know of anyone who sells it around stl. Thanks.

Sean

In my region soprema caries the stuff.
It is a new product so one could possibly get a sample !!

Also where ever blue skin is sold they should be able to supplly the stt.

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Here...this is the Dryvit dist. in St. Louis they will have prep coat and mesh

Thanks Chris, I'll give them a try in the morning.

Sean

I used Dryvit with some kind of below-grade additive. My plasterer put it on. It's durable and comes in pretty much any color.