board and batten siding
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18 Dec 2011 01:29 PM
I have been trying to find an icf system with horizonal attachment points. So that I could hang vertical board and batten siding without the need for furing strips. The siding would be rough sawn poplar and would be left to weather like an old barn any sugestions. Also I will be looking for a builder in Champaign county Ohio area.


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18 Dec 2011 03:39 PM
Hi
I sided my home in Board and batten usinf a block with vertical fastening strips,
you really want to strap the wall regardless, the siding will need air flow behind to prevent rot.....

My 2 cents....
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18 Dec 2011 05:38 PM
That makes sense, How did you fasten the strapping to the wall it seems that there would be a lot of weight hanging from weak plastic tabs.
My plan is to find a contractor to dry in a basic 30 x 40 walkout with 10 ft tall wall, with the upper level being the same, all concrete to the eves, then a ridge beam and rafter roof with sips.
I would then finish all electric, hvac, plumbing, interior and exterior myself.
If the prices I am seeing here are true I should be able to get a small mortgage say $80,000 and with a little sweat equity, cash out of pocket, and a few years have a home that doubles in price.
Does that sound reasonable?

Thanks
Greg


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18 Dec 2011 06:03 PM
I used Nudura Block and the webbing is more than adequate to hold the weight of the board and batten the strips are 8 inches apart so the 1X3 strapping I used had many attachment points , I screwed it every 16 inches with corrosion resistant #8 deck screws. I spaced the strapping every 24 inches horizontally and predrilled and screwed the boards to it. worked great.

I actually had a portable mill on site an sawed my own pine for the house I sawed it 3/4 inch thick but the normal 1 in wouldnt be a problem

as far as the costs I couldnt tell ya Im in Canada and things never seem to be on the same price scale as the States
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18 Dec 2011 08:50 PM
Posted By gmun on 18 Dec 2011 05:38 PM
If the prices I am seeing here are true I should be able to get a small mortgage say $80,000 and with a little sweat equity, cash out of pocket, and a few years have a home that doubles in price.
Does that sound reasonable? 

Don't count on being able to do it. DIY builders are as welcome to bankers as wasps are to your outdoor BBQ! When I built my house I had a choice, get a builder involved with me, or not get a mortgage and thus not build the house. And then when I did have the builder on board, and the construction loan in hand, every month past the first 6 that I didn't have the house finished the pressure to get it done got greater. After about 9 months the banker threatened to kick me off my own job and tell the builder to get in and get it finished. As it was the builder did start working with me pretty much full time at about 10 months until we finished at 13+ months.

Unless you have a private source of money, or an extremely rare and cooperative mortgage lender, I'm afraid you will need to rethink your plans for taking "a few years" to build your house. I'm going to be so bold as to say there is a 95%+ probability your plan won't fly. It's unfortunate, but bankers have two huge factors that influence them: a poor record by DIYers in general to get a house finished in a reasonable amount of time, and the pressure to get the construction money converted to a salable mortgage as quickly as possible. A salable mortgage is one that finances a marketable house. An unfinished house isn't marketable.



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18 Dec 2011 10:18 PM
"If the prices I am seeing here are true I should be able to get a small mortgage say $80,000 and with a little sweat equity, cash out of pocket, and a few years have a home that doubles in price.
Does that sound reasonable?"

Real estate in your world must be booming, but here on earth it sucks.


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21 Dec 2011 11:04 AM
Polycrete Big Block has horizontal fastening strips made from 22 gauge galvanized steel.

http://polycrete.us/uploads/BigBlock1600_ProductSpecifications_en.pdf

You can see the horizontal fastening strip in this picture of a "T" wall in process.

Attachment: T-Wall_in_Process.jpg

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