YNOTTONY
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| 12 Mar 2008 09:45 PM |
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Hi evry1,
I just came across a sips product called TITAN WALL. The skins are made of magnesium oxide and they say it is suitable for basement wall instead of concrete.
Any advice or opnions would be appreciated regarding using this product, or has anyone had an experience building with this product and don't mind sharing some info after using this kind of product.
titanwall.com
Thanx,
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Bluecreek
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| 24 Mar 2008 02:40 PM |
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Tony,
I have not used the Titan Wall, but have used the Enercept Foundation walls for many years with great satisfaction. The 2 appear very comparable, but the Enercept comes with the connecting splines already installed on one side which would save on your install. I would be curious to know how they compare on pricing.
Good Luck
David
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| Blue Creek Custom Homes<br>254•728•3672 Model/Office<br>[email protected] |
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Greg Freyermuth
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| 29 Mar 2008 05:18 PM |
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If you are paying $6-$7 for 4' x 8' x 7/16" OSB for your SIP's panels, figure the MgO cost for the same panel at at $16-$18 each. It is a superior product to be sure, but very pricy.
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| Greg Freyermuth<br>915-256-7563<br>[email protected]<br> www.energreensips.com |
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mal
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| 15 Apr 2008 11:27 PM |
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Not knocking SIPs (prefer them for many, if not most, applications), but devil is always in the details.
Have you (collective) had any issues related to thermal bridging that may (okay - will) occur at the “splines”, thus effectively reducing R-value to ~ R-7 or less on every panel seam, plate and corner that uses solid wood 2x joints. Depending on your climate (delta-t and humidity), how effectively this detail has been sealed (air and moisture infiltration and drafts) and surface finish (dark = high solar heat gain), this thermal bridge could lead to condensation or worse. Ever see the results from differing expansion and contraction rates of dissimilar materials or wet wood / OSB ? Would be interested in hearing from users of this product and others that use similar joint methodology......
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PanelCrafters
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| 16 Apr 2008 07:05 AM |
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Posted By mal on 04/15/2008 11:27 PMNot knocking SIPs (prefer them for many, if not most, applications), but devil is always in the details. Very few SIP manufacturers use a 2x spline any longer. We certainly don't. |
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Barney Lowe
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| 16 Apr 2008 07:51 AM |
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The SIPA website is still showing splines for roofs , I was under the impression that the flat spline were for walls only? is this correct? |
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cmkavala
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| 16 Apr 2008 07:53 AM |
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Titan wall looks like it has an awful lot of doubled splines?
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| Chris Kavala<br>[email protected]<br>1-877-321-SIPS<br /> |
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PanelCrafters
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| 16 Apr 2008 09:09 AM |
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Posted By Barney Lowe on 04/16/2008 7:51 AM
The SIPA website is still showing splines for roofs , I was under the impression that the flat spline were for walls only? is this correct? No. We've used OSB and thicker 3/4" material as splines for roof panels. But please note, that there are multiple ways of doing anything, so I can't speak for how some people/companies prefer to connect the panels. |
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| ....jc<br>If you're not building with OSB SIPS(or ICF's), why are you building? |
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mustangrh
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| 21 Jun 2008 12:37 AM |
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Here is the real story of Titanwall! I live just north of Calgary where they are manufactured and developed! I deal with the company and today we built a 22' x 24' garage with a heated pad in a day! Started at 9:30 AM and we quit at 10 PM. The pad was alreardy there! The building is compete except for the shingles! There is stucco on the sides and the doors are yet to be installed! These buildings are almost air tight! There is acoustic sealant between all splines and spray foam between spline and foam. I will be building a two story house with this product! Yes it is more expensive then a material package from your local store, but you can put up the building so fast and sealed it is incredible! When you put the labour to assemble a stick frame house and sheeting, siding, wrap, insulation, vapour barrier, drywall, etc. I believe it is way more expensive to build! Remember it is fire, bug and water resistant! You use 8" panel below grade and can use 6" or 8" above! Below grade you use pressure treated lumber and above they use a sip connector unless there is a requirement for a structural wood component! The one we used today the roof was 6" with a vault and there is no wood in it! The R-value is approx 20 all over the roof The walls were scattered with wood because of the load beams and the two garage doors! But if you consider the wood in a stick frame there would be way more wood bridges in a 2 x 6 on 16" wall for sure! It is my choice and my opinion, for what that is worth! |
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mustangrh
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| 31 Mar 2010 08:49 PM |
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If you like the Titanwall product idea, check out this other product.
newsippanel.com
It is basically the same Magnesium product that is Titanwall and the two companies share the patent on the board. It is unlike any other board out there. I have used both products and prefer the Magwall and Magboard product to the Titan.
The splines are very different and there is alot less bridging area than Titan. Is available in Nevada, Alberta, and British Columbia.
I have started to build my house out of it with the 8" panel for the subgrade, and above grade vertical walls and 14" panel for the ceiling and vaulted roof lines.
Extremely energy smart and my house has been modelled at over Energuide 87. To Canada building code would be E68!!.
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pwsmith
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| 16 Nov 2012 11:23 AM |
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All SIP's are basically the same, the most energy efficient and lowest cost is a STEEP Structural Termal Energy Efficient Panel. 80,000 projects in 27 countries prove it |
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cmkavala
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| 16 Nov 2012 05:24 PM |
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Posted By pwsmith on 16 Nov 2012 11:23 AM
All SIP's are basically the same, the most energy efficient and lowest cost is a STEEP Structural Termal Energy Efficient Panel. 80,000 projects in 27 countries prove it
Not really a "SIP system" , but a panelized wall system, pretty old technology |
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Lbear
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| 16 Nov 2012 09:25 PM |
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The OP was back in 2008, it came back in 2010, now it is revived in 2012. I guess it gets "revived" every 2 years...
Are Titan SIPS a true SIP? Are they recognized by SIPA?
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KevinCasey
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| 15 Feb 2019 02:59 PM |
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Anybody have any comments or experience they would like to share about the Titan Wall SIP's with Mag-pro MgO?
Thanks,
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Albertamike
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| 21 Feb 2019 10:45 PM |
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Titan Wall is owned by Marc Peers son of Jay Peers 3.3million stole and funneled to Titan Wall through companies but not in arms reach so could not be touched.
Jay pleaded guilty of over $80 million
use your own discretion.
https://www.albertaventure.com/how-a-powerful-albertan-family-defrauded-investors-out-of-millions/2/1055 |
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