Hi ICFHybrid,
I can say that I have greatly enjoyed my career at Boeing and I can assure you there is very little laziness here. I had the opportunity to work on some amazing projects and with some truly amazing people. I believe it is one best companies around and I certainly wouldn’t have invested 30+ years life if I didn’t believe this. Yes, there can be stark differences and pros/cons between small/large corporations. Large corporations: lots of resources, management effectiveness severely limited by bureaucracy, less connectivity between product requirements and customer needs, opportunity to create/market products unimaginable in a small company. Small corporations: limited resources, adaptable/effective management capacity, customers are in your face every day, making mistakes can be fatal for people and company.
I apologize, please remind me what ICF product you used? I would agree, very good value for what you will have. Here’s how my first vertical ICF project is starting to shake out:
ICF Walls: (36' X 2) + (56' X 2) = 184' X 12' height = 2,208 SF
Conservative Estimate of Concrete & Rebar: 2,208 SF x 0.5’ / 9 = 123 Yards x $100/Yard = $12,300
TFSystems ThermoForm Takeoff: $6,464 (without Concrete & Rebar)
Total (without Labor): $18,764 / 2,208 SF = $8.5/SF
TFSystems TransForm Takeoff: $12,795 (without Concrete & Rebar)
Total (without Labor): $25,095 / 2,208 SF = $11.4/SF
Like the more common horizontal ICF, the vertical ThermoForm leaves you with the standard 2.5” of foam on both sides. The vertical TransForm leaves you with 5” foam on external wall side, 0.75” foam on interior wall side (currently, perhaps zero soon), and 3.5” x 12” O.C. metal stud cavity on interior wall side.
Like your numbers, my numbers do not include costs for excavation, footings, or other stuff and labor.
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