Adhering EPS Foam to a Concrete Wall.
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22 Jan 2010 09:51 PM
I have been asked about what is the best, and must economical way to adhere EPS foam to a concrete wall. Thank-you in advance!
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23 Jan 2010 09:20 AM
That answer could depend on what the desired end result is. If you are going for a finished basement interior, or applying foam as insulation under a lick 'n stick stone application etc... on the exterior, you may want to look at the InSoFast panels. www.insofast.com
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23 Jan 2010 09:29 AM
It is for an exterior applications on existing concrete foundations. They want to apply it to the section of the foundations that are exposed above the ground and the parch that area with a cementitious based product. EPS foam has excellent bonding characteristics and is ecomomically priced. I will look at the site you sent.
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27 Jan 2010 06:04 PM
Hi Joseph,

Check out Quad-Locks new R-ETRO Insulation system at http://www.quadlock.com/retrofit_insulation/index.htm. It was voted one of the best new products from 2009 by Walls & Ceilings Magazine. If you have any questions about the product let me know, I would be happy to help!

Lisa Little
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Quad-Lock Building Systems
1-888-711-5625 ext. 204
[email protected]
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05 Sep 2010 01:27 PM

I considering a similiar insulation to my garage / loft, and need some input/opinions/suggestions to get the maximum wall R-value.
I'm planning on building a 2 car garage with a 1 bedroom apartment (600sqft) loft above in the roof space as the detail below shows.
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The garage will be constructed out of 8" concrete blocks, with partial brick veneer to the lower garage section (below joists) and a batten and board detail from joist level upwards.

My dilemma is acheiving the best R-Value on the walls in the loft area using 8" CMU.
All external walls in the loft area will be 8" CMU. (both gable ends, rear & front pony wall.

After much research I figure quadlocks retro fit could be what I'm looking for depending on the cost.

I'm considering a wall system like this detail listed below-

1/2" drywall, 6mm poly vapour barrier, 1"furring (with 1" styrofoam cladmate inserted) R-5 value, 8" reinforced CMU, Moisture barrier(building paper), quadlock retro fit with R-18 Value then board an Batten.

I figure this would give me an estimated R-Value of around R-24 - R-26

I plan on spray foaming the cathedral ceiling (unvented) & floor to achieve an R value of 38+

I live in southern ontario. I dont plan on heating or insulating the lower garage level, though might consider installing a 1" styrofoamcladmate into the cavity to hold some heat (opinions please)
I plan on fitting the joists on hangers at the bond beam level so no floor joist can come into contact with external moisture. Spray foam at floor and joists should take care of any vapour barrier issues.
I plan on fitting the Quadlock insulation 4" below the underside of the joist level (externally) and foam spraying between all joists 
I'm a mason by trade (UK) and have never been a fan of stick buiding, I love the structural element of masonry, plus I save on ALL the labour costs,,


Any input, opinions, advice would be greatly appreciated.

Simon


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05 Sep 2010 01:31 PM

Does anyone know the cost per Sq/Ft for this quadlock retro system?

I'm looking to use R-18 minimum.

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05 Sep 2010 02:44 PM
You only save on "all the labor" if your time has no value.
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05 Sep 2010 03:49 PM
Excellent input, Thanks!

Ok..I'll expand.....It wont cost me $30k  in labour costs because I will be putting it together myself, in my "spare, available" time

So by doing so...It will save me spending $30k of my own cash....which is the equivalant of $45k pre-tax.


Yes my time has value......


My spare time just went up in value........

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05 Sep 2010 04:00 PM
Sorry, I have a wise a$$ gene, and it sometimes percolates to the surface with little or no notice.
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05 Sep 2010 05:05 PM
Likewise! Noted & forgiven!
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06 Sep 2010 09:23 PM
I like InSoFast. We use PL Premium to adhere it.
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