Structural Concrete Insulated Panels SCIP's
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10 Nov 2010 09:42 PM

Jim

Having been a builder for over twenty years with another fifteen working for two other builders I am well aware of many quality controls issues.

SCIP systems are not new. I know many claim they are first, but the modern SCIP concept dates back to the 40s for fences and homes in the 50s. Many changes have transpired from the 50s but we are still talking about foam, a form of reinforcement and shot, blast or brand X crete. The system can be done by hand without power tools in third world areas where time and labor are cheap or with manual presses and minimal power tools to all auto cad production plant.

Even the materials are changing and improving. I think it may be Forza who now offers green non petroleum base foam.  

 I have also learned not all SCIP designs are equal some failing tests at a southern university where other excelled. I do not have the details or the names of the systems that were tested. What is important to me, is the strengths of the system I am using.

I understand it has been designed to ten stories. The four levels I am currently building are high enough.

As far as Code issues, Denver is far from a back water town using  the 2006 IBC/IRC and the amount of documentation I am sure would stand up to any area in the US and beyond.

The design model I am following clear spans 30’ for roofs and floors even in the Colorado Mountains with snow loads you will never see in temperate areas.

With values cover extreme tempters, R 40 walls, R 80 roof, wind loads to 250 miles, earthquakes to 8.3 and four hour fire rating.

The design model I am using is scaled down to a two hour fire rating and 120 mile hour wind load and a reduced systemic rating in line with Colorado.

The SCIP home I am building is my first I have built. I am taking extra care and time for that reason. The last home I finished last year for the same family was 12,800’ this system would have saved them $600 or more a month in heating and cooling costs. I am already bidding versions of the system for two additions and wrapping one home for greater fire protection.

I am looking forward to many more projects with the SCIP design.

I will miss the smell of cut wood but offering homes that will out perform stick built homes is reward enough.

I also am honored to have installed the first Amasond Geoexchange system in the US.

It is a new generation of geothermal ground source pipe that is more efficient and cost less to install. You can check them out at Amasond.com.

Richard Sims.



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11 Nov 2010 11:24 AM
Hello,

I am a supplier of the SCIP product and have built many structures, fences, retaining walls, etc.  Most of the homes I have been involved with are in the Reno, NV. and Lake Tahoe area where we experience very drastic temperature swings.  Every client I have has experienced tremendous energy cost savings compared to the wood framed homes they lived in before.  I became a distributor  of the product after I did extensive research on which technology I would use to bulid my own home, I landed on the SCIP technology.  As for the strength of the panels, I agree with a previous post by another gentleman, some of the SCIP brands do not perform the same as others which comes down to a combination of a couple of things;  1)  the use of inferior steel and 2)  pour qualtiy control measures during the manufacturing process.

Out West, we have a huge siesmic requirement and the panels function very well.  We are currently in the process of revising the ICC Legacy report testing for siesmic shear.  We have to build structures to withstand the earthquake seismic zone D requirement at the minimum due to where we live.  We also have a huge snow load requirement like the gentleman in Colorado.  In Truckee, CA. we have upwards of 200 pounds for the snow roof loads, in South Lake Tahoe, it is 160 pounds.

I am very pleased with the technology.

If you have any questions, please contact me at  775-742-0360

Regards,
Jim


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16 Nov 2010 12:37 AM
A great SIP is one made with GFRC - Glass Fiber Reinforced Concrete. The GFRC is light weight yet ultra strong. Google: GFRC SIP - for more info


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23 Jan 2011 04:42 PM
Bob,
We are manufacturer's of the S.C.I.P. System, Panel Press and related equipment, we also design, engineer and manufacturer S.C.I.P. building panels. If you are still looking for a company that is devoted in the S.C.I.P. industry please feel free to contact me.

Thank you,
Mark

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29 Jan 2011 10:12 PM
http://wn.com/Residential_Building_with_Green_Building_SCIP_Panels

This must be the 3 Little Pigs House.

I wonder how many unsuspecting consumers looking for green construction will end up with a build like this?



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30 Jan 2011 07:09 AM
how do the shingles attach to the roof?


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30 Jan 2011 05:17 PM

Roof?
Here it is....Cut Part A sections in half, affix to styrofoam decking with Part B.

Part A.Part B.



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31 Jan 2011 08:14 AM
Posted By GFRC on 16 Nov 2010 12:37 AM
A great SIP is one made with GFRC - Glass Fiber Reinforced Concrete. The GFRC is light weight yet ultra strong. Google: GFRC SIP - for more info


so I can see how your product is a nice hard coat shell, but how is it a structural component?


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08 Mar 2011 09:20 AM
Strength depends on the steel and concrete thickness. I've see quite a few SCIP homes and they seem to work well. The video looks accurate.





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05 Jan 2012 09:57 PM
Hi Guys,

Please to have stumbled upon this forum and reading about your advises and assistances. I have been planning to set up a consultantcy firm for an Ecological Building Solution provider here in Asia after I left my previous job in a Canadian green building company.

I have been scouting and seeking interested SIP manufacturers and other environmental friendly solution providers to partner with, as Asia is a huge raw market for such technologies. I have been building networks in Malaysia, China, Indonesia, Thailand, Australia and Singapore for the last 2 years for ECO products and solutions.

Currently I am looking for support and investments to develop a few potential products and solutions within these few regions. Kindly advise if anyone will be interested in such collaboration or markets.



David T.


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11 Apr 2012 03:46 PM
Amasond.com is not a working website. Can you send me more information? I am steelcrete.com


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