tonya
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| 07/27/2008 8:33 AM |
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Hi All
I am looking into manufacturing panels with EPS and OSB skins. The problem I need to resolve is the wire chases.
I would like to know how the big companies manage this on a large scale and what sort of machine is involved?
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cmkavala
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| 07/27/2008 9:04 AM |
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| They use hot wires |
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Donaldson
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| 07/28/2008 3:17 PM |
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| If you use 1 1/2 inch furring strips you can run your wire behind the dry wall, which is way easier than trying to make a corner in interior chases that have to meet up. What you save in time and labor should cover the cost of the furring strips. You don't have to cut out any panel skins for added boxes or switches and you can have as many outlets as you want. A 2" shallow box will fit nicely with no modification of walls, skins and you have added a dead space that improves insulation and sound reduction. |
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cmkavala
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| 07/28/2008 6:16 PM |
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Posted By Donaldson on 07/28/2008 3:17 PM
If you use 1 1/2 inch furring strips you can run your wire behind the dry wall, which is way easier than trying to make a corner in interior chases that have to meet up. What you save in time and labor should cover the cost of the furring strips. You don't have to cut out any panel skins for added boxes or switches and you can have as many outlets as you want. A 2" shallow box will fit nicely with no modification of walls, skins and you have added a dead space that improves insulation and sound reduction.
4 x 4 x 1-1/2" boxes with 1/2" plaster rings
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KwikBuild
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| 07/28/2008 6:22 PM |
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| Try taking a look at 3rd generation SIP's......KwikBuildPanels.com |
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NWP
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| 07/28/2008 10:36 PM |
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| MOst of us have cad automated hot wires so lining them up on the block before being pressed is not a problem. consistent and accurate. |
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tonya
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| 07/29/2008 4:51 AM |
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Hi
Thanks for your reply, could you tell me more about your cad automated hot wires as unaware of this system.It might be something I will need along the way.
Whats everybodies thoughts on routing chases on the edge of the EPS marking their postions,and standing this face outward ?
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| 07/29/2008 11:47 AM |
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| No machining involved, casted in with the manufacturing of the Kwik-Build Panels. Also no OSB, so no rot, termites, mold or fuel for fires. |
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thevidy
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| 08/01/2008 5:27 AM |
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Hi,
I've been reading the forums for the past couple of months and have found them to be very informative as well as entertaining. I am a machinist by trade so take what you will from my suggestion at own risk. Another option for onsite chase making in eps would be to set the panel plum over a fire proof substrate and heat up a large ball bearing really hot (ie. with a propane torch) and drop it down the middle of the eps where you want the chase to be located, it will melt its way down the panel and drop out the bottom. |
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cmkavala
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| 08/01/2008 6:06 AM |
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Posted By thevidy on 08/01/2008 5:27 AM
Hi,
I've been reading the forums for the past couple of months and have found them to be very informative as well as entertaining. I am a machinist by trade so take what you will from my suggestion at own risk. Another option for onsite chase making in eps would be to set the panel plum over a fire proof substrate and heat up a large ball bearing really hot (ie. with a propane torch) and drop it down the middle of the eps where you want the chase to be located, it will melt its way down the panel and drop out the bottom.
HOT POTATO!............what if it cools off before it comes out the other end?
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thevidy
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| 08/01/2008 5:49 PM |
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| I had a feeling someone would ask that. Have the bearing welded to a pole. |
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cmkavala
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| 08/01/2008 5:52 PM |
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Posted By thevidy on 08/01/2008 5:49 PM
I had a feeling someone would ask that. Have the bearing welded to a pole. panels are 24ft. long .............. hard to keep centered at that distance
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thevidy
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| 08/01/2008 5:56 PM |
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| I now that installing furring strips on the inside will create a nice chase but will that require non standard windows and doors. I have also seen them cut out sections of the osb and eps on the inside panel and wondered if this compromises the strength or it still retains enough of its strength to safely do this. |
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thevidy
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| 08/01/2008 6:00 PM |
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| I would only use this within reasonable lengths. I guess using some common sense isn't so common |
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cmkavala
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| 08/01/2008 6:03 PM |
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Posted By thevidy on 08/01/2008 5:56 PM
I now that installing furring strips on the inside will create a nice chase but will that require non standard windows and doors. I have also seen them cut out sections of the osb and eps on the inside panel and wondered if this compromises the strength or it still retains enough of its strength to safely do this. For us just the doors, as most windows around here are drywall returns, but most customers are going to 6" walls anyway.
On commercial jobs a 6" HM frame throat fits perfectly on a 6" steel panel
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