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07/04/2008 11:26 PM  
Anybody dealt with them? They quoted me what seems like a good price, and they're running a free shipping deal in July (saving $1000). I mentioned that other distributors hadn't heard of them and they said they were a new company but they had a great deal of experience from a company in Florida (forget the name). I'm thinking about closing the deal this week to get things moving.
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07/06/2008 11:37 AM  
Do they have a website, who's panels are the using? Where in RI are they located?

We are a manufacturer in NH and could quote you on your project, we have very agressive pricing.

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07/06/2008 12:05 PM  
Ralph - If you are the Sip manufacturer in Keene, I forwarded you guys the plans last week. Hadn't heard anything.

I'm trying to do my homework - no one ranks these SIPS system, and everyone claims they are the best. I'm looking locally for a builder (and contacted some through the sipa site). SIS says they can get them stamped for me.
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07/06/2008 1:46 PM  
No I am in Hooksett and if you would like to send them to me email me a set. the people in Keenne are distributor / fabricator for insulspan out of Michigan. they are called panel pros. my email is ralphlord@mewworldpanels.com
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07/06/2008 1:55 PM  
Sent! Time is short as I would like to lock someone in this week.
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07/06/2008 1:58 PM  
I will get back to you by Wednesday at the latest.
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07/06/2008 2:01 PM  
Can you tell me more about what you are looking for, Just the panel RTA or complete install and what other parts of the project will you need completed by the builder if we are doing the install. If you would like we can talk later today ater 6:00 603-209-4857
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07/07/2008 7:44 PM  
Shouts...

I've been through the exercise of getting various quotes for our house built with different technologies (ICF, site-built SIP, stick with spray foam, etc).  I got so fed up with all the BS being thrown my way that I introduced a reputable modular manufacturer to a nearby, and also reputable, SIP manufacturer.  The result is the house I am building.  I can say, without a doubt, that you owe it to youself to look at a SIP modular.  I am getting R40 walls for a price you will find difficult to beat.

I don't want to sling mud, but I received a quote from a company in NH.  When I told them about the SIP modular project they - lowered - their quote by $100k - YES, $100k!

I can only say - do your homework.  If you are not educated about modular building, you owe it to yourself to do so.

Best of luck and let me know if i can help.

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07/07/2008 8:19 PM  
Yes... been there and it was interesting, but... I've heard some bad things about polyurethane sips - and Alpen Windows, although my first choice, is about 60$ a square foot! That's a lot for 30+ windows. We're going as green as we can, but we have to balance it with finances. Sips panels go up fast and I can keep most of the building local and support the economy.

I think EPS is the way to go...
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07/07/2008 8:39 PM  
The up-charge to use R23 EPS SIPs vs. traditional 2x6 stick and batt modular is so small you might not beleive it.  We went "all out" and went with the R40 panels just to show what could be done.  They have an upcharge that is more difficult to justify.  I'd encourage you to contact Penn Lyon (www.PennLyon.com) directly.  I have also heard that Epoch (www.EpochHomes.com) is looking to build with SIPs (they currently use spray foam) so you might also want to call them as well.

If you want to get a better price from Alpen, tell them Ed Gouin sent you, and that you'd like to help them expand their East coast operations. :-)  I know they have a keen interest in "green" housing projects, and I am sure they will work with you (as long as you don't expect to get their windows for $149 each).

I encourage you to "support the local economy," however if budget is an issue, you owe it to yourself to look into modular.  When I post my budget numbers for our project, you will see that it compares - quite - favorably to site built.

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07/08/2008 6:47 PM  
Urethane is good as long as the carpenter ant and termites do get to them, we are replacing a roof system that was urethane and the ants ate through the urethane. I think that it is a matter of preferance. also one thing you won't see in the modular that you would see on site is the squareness of the panels, eps tend to be more true than urethane because of the lamination processes being so different.
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07/08/2008 6:50 PM  
Even though you are doing panels walls, you are doing truss roof, which in turn will still allow for heat loss no matter how much you spray in. You will be able to notice it during the winter when you can see where each rafter is with the snow being melted off in each area. We have come up with a way to do sips mod even for the roof.
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07/08/2008 8:13 PM  
If you go with steel sips you don't have to worry about carpenter ants or termites as the foam is encased in steel.
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07/08/2008 8:38 PM  
Posted By NWP on 07/08/2008 6:50 PM
Even though you are doing panels walls, you are doing truss roof, which in turn will still allow for heat loss no matter how much you spray in. You will be able to notice it during the winter when you can see where each rafter is with the snow being melted off in each area. We have come up with a way to do sips mod even for the roof.

We will have rafters, not trusses.  The rafter cavities will be filled with closed cell spray foam and then a layer of foam board will be added before the drywall is added.  Thermal bridging should be minimal.

Regardless of that fact, I agree, the stick-built roof system is not ideal from an energy efficiency standpoint.  A SIP roof would be better.  If you have a workable way to build a folding SIP roof, that's great.  I'd encourage you to call Penn Lyon.  I know they have other SIP projects in the pipeline.

Ed
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