"From this last picture you can begin to see the enornity of the structure, 23 ft. tall side walls, underside of main roof span is 36ft. at center from slab, tall enough to install a third floor loft area over the theater."

I take it this isn't just a cozy weekend getaway shack for a retired couple! :-)

I'm sure we've all been in barns with less interior volume!

Posted By rnortman on 20 Oct 2011 05:39 PM
What's happening at the top of that post?  How are the panels connected there?  Is the post temporary or permanent?

The post is temporary, the top is a crcular metal cone, each pie shaped wedge ( 32 pcs) is stitch screwed to center cone. Each cut joint is stiched together with metal skin top and bottom. Eave end is fastened with LD sip screw to top wall cap

Posted By Dana1 on 20 Oct 2011 06:02 PM


I take it this isn't just a cozy weekend getaway shack for a retired couple! :-)

I'm sure we've all been in barns with less interior volume!

Two doctors

84 job photos at this link: http://www.myspace.com/steelsips#!/steelsips/photos/albums/odessa-job/1607193

updated...............



Top view of Hip roof



multi sided roof



top view of round roof, overhang tails running wild will now be cut back to 24"

This is one of the most complicated metal sip homes I have ever seen built. Nice work! Thank you for the photos.

This project is nothing short of AWESOME!

Chris, you said the overhangs are going to be cut in place... Will you just cut both sides of the panel like usual, or is there another method you have up your sleeve?

Also, that looks like 18 gauge brake metal at the hip, but what sort of profile is it? Looks like an "H" but maybe it's two "C" channels screwed back to back?

Matt; attached is the detail less the 26 ga. cap on top is not needed Tails are cut on both sides as usual for a plumb cut

MarinoWare Joists............................ We normally use Dietrich TradeReady and decided to try MarinoWare JoistRite, promised 2 week delivery that turned into a 6 week wait. A real killer on the construction schedule

Look at all those joists! That is a monster of a house.

Was the MarinoWare price in line with Dietrich?

MarinoWare was slightly less on this house and I had been wanting to try them, but not worth the waiting time, unless there is some compelling reason, I will be going back to Dietrich in the future, simply because the lead time is usually 2 weeks or less

MarinoWare being installed, 12" x 14ga. @ 16" oc

I have used them in a few projects and like them from a designers point of view. With all those cut outs they are really flimsy. Make sure you follow the bridging recomendations. Addedly, if you can't get them on time, thats unaceptable.

I was able to adjust my plans to not need the larger holes. I ended up just going with solid clark-western 14-inch, 14-gauge studs and track. I used 2.5" channel for bridging (just clip out sides at each joist) and L-sections for clips. The studs have sufficient holes to run wire but the increased stiffness allowed me to adjust my joint spacing (overall a tremendous difference in price). I got prices for Dietrich and Marino Ware, Marino Ware was slightly less (but delivery time for both was several times that of Clark-Western). I guess Clark-Western and Dietrich have merged but I imagine the price/time difference is still about the same.

Jeff;
14 ga. with a 3" width made joists plenty stiff, but cannot wait 6 weeks for materials

Torben;
needed the webs/holes for mechanicals, I am using the stud only for a third floor loft (after thought) where plumbing and HVAC is not needed in the joists.

Those shiny steel joists are too pretty to cover up with plywood!

Posted By Jelly on 22 Nov 2011 07:40 PM
Those shiny steel joists are too pretty to cover up with plywood!

Not using plywood in this one, decking will be 2" thick mag board SIPs

You sort of just blew my mind with that one. I didn't know Mag board was even passing the sniff test yet. I guess I've been away from the forum for too long!

Posted By Jelly on 23 Nov 2011 01:18 AM
You sort of just blew my mind with that one. I didn't know Mag board was even passing the sniff test yet. I guess I've been away from the forum for too long!

we will let you know the results in a while, and render and opionion

Wow Chris you've been full of surprises on this one. Congratulations on a phenomenally innovative SIPS project. I'll certainly be interested in your results. What is the actual thickness of Magboard you are using?