Are programmable theremostats good for radiant heat?
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22 Nov 2008 01:50 PM
Are programmable thermostats good for radiant heat? 

we have a pretty large house (8,000 sf including fully finished basement).  Primary heating is a hyrdostatic forced air system operated by programmable thermostats that turn down the temperature and night and whenever we leave the house and turn on the alarm (home automation).  But in the (large) kitchen and master bathroom with tile floors we have radiant heat.   My contractor says he doesn't recommend programmable therms for the radiant heat, but i wonder why not? 

i'd like to:
  • turn down the heat in the kitchen at night
  • turn down the heat in the MBR during the day and at night
  1. Is this a good idea?
  2. Are programmable thermostats good for radiant heat?
  3. Do i need a particular type?
  4. What kind of savings can i expect (i.e., will the cost of the thermostats be offset by the savings?)

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22 Nov 2008 07:11 PM
It depends. Set back can be a valid comfort issue (cooler at night) by I have never been a fan of the energy savings argument. Cooler means less comfort.

If you have a low mass i.e. quick response "sandwich" system a reasonable setback 2-3°F can be achieved and the floor willl be warm when you wake up (satisfying the comfort standard). High mass radiant panels are less responsive and I like to set and forget them or run them on outdoor reset - a whole other conversation.

Outdoor reset is the answer for saving money and being comfortable at the same time.
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23 Nov 2008 08:17 AM

It depends on whether you're heating a 4" thick slab or just a tile/hardwood floor above a plywood substaright.

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23 Nov 2008 07:02 PM
Thanks - how do i know which one it is? i assume it's not a 4" think slab because this is the first floor which sits above a finished basement.
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23 Nov 2008 07:26 PM

Are there air registers in these rooms too? Meaning, is the floor warming system the only source of heat or is there forced air as well? I'm presuming that it's hydronics, not electric radiant, correct?

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23 Nov 2008 07:32 PM
thanks for your help. There are air registers in the room, and all the other rooms in the house. The main heating system is hydronic (I said "hydrostatic" earlier but i think i'm wrong about that). there's a large boiler in the basement and air handling units that drive the warm air throughout the house. the radiant heat is NOT electric -- it's driven by the boiler, too.
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23 Nov 2008 07:33 PM
thanks.  i don't know what type of system i have but if its only turned down 2-3 degrees i can't imagine there will be much savings.
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23 Nov 2008 09:28 PM

You were probably correct the first time. Hydrostatic would be correct for a forced air, hot water system. Hydronics are, generally speaking, water in tubing in the floor, like your kitchen and baths.

If you turn down the floor temp to say, 65 degrees, how long will it take to bring it back up to a temp your happy with again. The possibilty exists that just leaving it with a 2 or 3 degree set back may be more 'satisfying' because the two costs end up being the same. That is, turn it down and it takes 2 hours to bring it back up vs. leaving it on and it only runs for and hour overnight to maintain. It will take some playing and a couple of months bills to find that out.

I would still like programmable tstats installed though. Control over the system is always a plus. Providing the floor isn't in and the ability to install sensors  in the floor is available.

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